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@chickfilla @nixCraft 100% this. I get that it's disappointing to see web services sell themselves, but it's absolutely ridiculous to think that OpenAI haven't already crawled every single openly accessible web forum, blog or other source of free information.

6 May at 14:34 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.social
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Dr. Gravitas

@Craftycat @chickfilla @nixCraft

It's not about preventing harm that may have already been done, it's about punishing services that choose to align with them.

6 May at 18:58 | Open on red.fox.yt
drevil
Dr. Gravitas

@chickfilla @Craftycat @nixCraft

To clarify, I don't know that I endorse removing responses really. If you remove the ability to get it from the non-AI source and there's no viable alternative source but the AI companies, then you may be effectively driving users to the AI service. Regardless of whether it succeeds in getting services like Stack Exchange to reconsider, it may still be an outcome in OpenAI's favor. On the other hand, to skip removing the content, but the impact of refraining frim the service would be harder to detect, take longer to become apparent and may not be an effective punishment.

Ensuring the deleted content is available on a more favorable service that hasn't aligned with OpenAI would probably be an important addendum.

@chickfilla @Craftycat @nixCraft

To clarify, I don't know that I endorse removing responses really. If you remove the ability to get it from the non-AI source and there's no viable alternative source but the AI companies, then you may be effectively driving users to the AI service. Regardless of whether it succeeds in getting services like Stack Exchange to reconsider, it may still be an outcome in OpenAI's favor. On the other hand, to skip removing the content, but the impact of refraining frim...

6 May at 19:21 | Open on red.fox.yt
drevil

@DrGravitas @Craftycat @nixCraft I was thinking about that too. The issue I have is that, if this partnership is done to ease the integration of ChatGPT into StackOverflow, they will include ai generated answers first regardless of if people delete their posts or not.

By removing your answers at least you decrease the value of SO, though given the very, very small portion of their user base that cares about this, I don't think it will affect them much.

I guess if you want to give them the middle finger for this, than go ahead, but truth be told, it's unlikely this will cause any significant changes on their behavior. Most people I'd imagine will actually be thrilled about ChatGPT integration, since for a lot of people all that it means is that they might get automated replies without waiting for a human, regardless of the quality of the answers they might receive (assuming they are able to tell if they are bad or not to begin with).

Either way, it's a very bleak future I'm afraid, and the only saving grace I can think of is that the answers become so repetitive and terrible, people just revert back to forums/alterantives to SO. Or, you know, just reading documentation when possible.

@DrGravitas @Craftycat @nixCraft I was thinking about that too. The issue I have is that, if this partnership is done to ease the integration of ChatGPT into StackOverflow, they will include ai generated answers first regardless of if people delete their posts or not.

By removing your answers at least you decrease the value of SO, though given the very, very small portion of their user base that cares about this, I don't think it will affect them much.

6 May at 19:29 | Open on tilde.zone
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