 I've seen a lot of interesting discussion regarding Mint's choice to downgrade some apps to the GTK3 version, later fork them. Whilst a lot of people have been critical let me provide another perspective Projects like Mint do not like the state of GNOME/where it is going, instead of just sitting around whining about how much they don't like it they've taken it upon themselves to fork tools and maintain them for their own project. You may disagree with that choice but this is the spirit of FOSS 9 comments
Maybe in the long run all of this is a giant waste of time, GTK3 can no longer be saved, building a desktop on an immature toolkit like Iced just won't work. This is completely possible but I have nothing but respect for developers who actually take it upon themselves to try and resolve what they see as a problem by sitting down and just writing some code.  @BrodieOnLinux Actually, I'd say that Mint is unifying, rather than fragmenting, Linux desktops. There are a bunch of desktops who aren't served by the specific goals and needs of the GNOME Project. By creating a separate "XApp" organization, Mint is choosing to collaborate with all these other desktops to create an alternative to the GNOME ecosystem. I think it's a pretty valid reason to do this and it may also improve the quality and standards of alternative desktops in the long-term.  @BrodieOnLinux Thats the absolut best decision, in my opinion. In the long run you will otherwise either hold back the other project or break your project. As long as there are moving parts. And that is, if you agree on a direction.  @BrodieOnLinux are we really at the point in #freeSoftware when people will whine about those who only complain and do nothing, and they equally whine about those who actually work on the thing? Is a #Linux user only satisfied when all the developers are working exactly on the things that specific user needs? It has the same energy as the "why isn't X distribution cater to everyone instead of their specific target user?" comments. @BrodieOnLinux not everything is a waste of effort / time that is put to projects "you" personally don't like. In my case, I work on stuff that is probably useless for everyone but me, but if I didn't work on that, I wouldn't work on something that would benefit "you", I'd probably just watch youtube instead.  >>building a desktop on an immature toolkit like Iced just won't work time will tell, don't be so pessimistic.  @exahamza Time will tell, but wow am I skeptical, I was considering making an app in Rust some time ago and was kinda horrified about how not great things like basic buttons looked... Compared to GTK or Qt or the web or pretty much anything else where I can just add a button and it looks and acts pretty much just like how you'd expect I hope it succeeds though! There needs to be non-immediate-mode GUI frameworks for Rust.  @BrodieOnLinux I respect the decision. Not liking something and then not doing anything about it achieves nothing. Forking it and taking it in their own direction is great |
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The same can be said about COSMIC from System76, they have had serious disagreements with the direction of the project so they said "fuck it, we're just going to build our own desktop and run it the way that we want to run it".
Could problems just be resolved upstream, maybe. But they have decided that this time has passed, any attempts made didn't go the way they wanted so they've decided to go off and do their own thing.