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BrianKrebs

How about this? Lawmakers pass a law (gasp!) that says if you're a private company providing services to the entire populace on behalf of .gov, your site will use com/net/org only when it is interacting with the government. Full stop.

Probably even the extreme wingnuts in the GOP could get behind this, in a kind of "buy American" way.

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Marcus Hutchins :verified:

@briankrebs US Congress passing laws that universally benefit society? Get outta here with this communist propaganda

aqunt

@briankrebs related angry old man yelling at clouds: why does every government web site ask if they can add marketing cookies or do I just want the ones necessary for this site?

Theodore Painsworth

@aqunt @briankrebs

Why? Because laws were passed that made them.

They wouldn't without the laws.

Round and round we'll go..

aqunt

@itty53 @briankrebs How about just using cookies needed for the site to work? Not trying to sell our data to private companies while providing government services?

Zimmie

@itty53 @aqunt @briankrebs The question is why a government site is trying to set marketing cookies, though.

Max Burke 🇺🇦

@briankrebs What about appropriate country TLDs? (ie, .us for companies providing services to US government + people)

BrianKrebs

@max No way in hell I would encourage the further use of .us until someone in charge at the GSA or whatever started giving a damn about how the tld is completely overrun with abuse, phishing and spam domains -- in near total contravention to the tld's charter, I might add.

krebsonsecurity.com/2023/09/wh

Allan Chow

@briankrebs name one representative that you're confident you'd be able to pitch this to

Allan Chow

@briankrebs yeah. A representative. But then again how many bills are drafted by lobbyists and just signed by representatives

Allan Chow

@briankrebs oh man don't put effort into this that would make me feel bad

royal

@briankrebs I like this, but there might need to be some kind of domain registration price regulation included too.

GMcGath

@briankrebs If the company is operating out of a Balkan nation, does making it use a .com domain make it any safer?

Fritz Adalis

@briankrebs
No, make them use .gov for their gov operations. Or something restricted like edu.

The Psychotic Network Ferret

@FritzAdalis @briankrebs ID.me can eat a dick, they refuse to verify my identity. Trying to lock down my ID with the IRS because of my PMI being all over the dark web, and I just can't. They refuse to work with me, it fucking sucks.

Lindworm

@briankrebs So you basicly say, governments may not use an external mail/mail tracking service like mailchimp, postmark (what this is) and so on. Not that I am on the other side, but how should a normal user (the stuff at that government) know whats going on behind the scenes? They just use the typical plugin.

Timothy Jasionowski

@briankrebs Alternative idea… a federal CA. All government and proxy sites must use it.

Timothy Jasionowski

@briankrebs Rather than a lock icon for these certs for https in the browser, instead have a lock with… just spitballing here… an Eagle shooting off fireworks while gripping a beer can. Or a flag. Your choice.

the_afflicted11

@briankrebs It really should. This is how most scams in third world countries start. 'SMSes like Click on this link to pay your tax/insurance, and the link is of some xyz@shop xyz@corner xyz@taxoffice site.'

Make it a law sooooon, Like before some foreign lobby gets to the GOP wingnuts.

John Kristoff

@briankrebs I assume you're half-joking.

But in case not, this will never happen. While those three registry operations are all US-controlled companies, two of which being Verisign, there are numerous registrars for those TLDs located all over the world. Do you also stipulate US-only registrars too? Which ones if so?

Then what about all the other TLDs that are effectively in US control? Any of those OK? Why or why not?

How does this square with all the other goods that may not be entirely US-sourced? Placing a name under a certain TLD has potential consequences, and some are potentially problematic, but it may be a lot more complicated than that.

@briankrebs I assume you're half-joking.

But in case not, this will never happen. While those three registry operations are all US-controlled companies, two of which being Verisign, there are numerous registrars for those TLDs located all over the world. Do you also stipulate US-only registrars too? Which ones if so?

dango🍡:02lurk:

@briankrebs I can see it now, generic system services company has to buy .us, .ie, .uk, .es, .ca, .de, .fr, etc, and use the correct domain for each country. (.com is also banned in the EU for being under US control)

Oggie

@briankrebs
The nontrivial factor which I know you're aware of but should really be mentioned, is link rot.

Sure, it's not a problem....right now. But in 5 years, if that company goes under and another one moves in, even with 3 years time warning ahead, some random person finds an old document via a search engine that talks about this URL. If it's a .gov address, no prob, 301. But what if it's a domain you just...don't control anymore?

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