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Tamitha

@thisismissem Regardless of what they offer... many of us don't want anything to do with Meta. Or Twitter. It's a poisoned chalice as far as many of us are concerned.

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Risotto

@tamitha @thisismissem right and part of this is that it's incredibly frustrating to see how immature the never-threads people are on so many levels

They just can't be pleased

And their ideas and asks are so disjoint from reality as far as current staffing and funding.

So it's just... So... Exhausting. Because they don't understand how open source development and maintenance works.

And I think MissEm does.

Emelia πŸ‘ΈπŸ»

@risottobias @tamitha it's also 100% okay to not take software anyone offers. Whether that's from Meta or what I work on at IFTAS.

But there's certainly things we can all learn from others. e.g., I've some Ideas for improving moderation in mastodon & pixelfed, directly inspired by Software I've seen elsewhere for moderation purposes.

Natasha Nox πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Έ

@thisismissem @risottobias @tamitha Learning from each other is good. Yet we still have to keep in mind that Meta is, as a whole, an abusive and outright dangerous company no matter how nice those who work there are. Those who make the calls are not.

I shall be damned if those tools Meta will offer can be self-hosted without any legal or technical catch to them.

Natasha Nox πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Έ replied to Emelia

@thisismissem @risottobias @tamitha That is technically correct. That doesn't mean one should give Meta even a slither of trust about anything.

If they want to contribute tools by making them Open-Source and self-hostable with a proper license like AGPL, sure. However doing or accepting anything else with/from Meta would just be ridiculously ignorant at this point.

Emelia πŸ‘ΈπŸ» replied to Natasha Nox πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Έ

@Natanox @risottobias @tamitha for what it's worth, Meta has already been opensourcing tooling for trust and safety, e.g., github.com/facebook/ThreatExch

The algorithms from which power StopNCII.org to my knowledge.

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