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ospalh

With Kekulé, that was a reverie (»Träumerei«) in a London (horse drawn) omnibus, not a dream at night.
The only outside force involved was the conductor ending the reverie, not some entity revealing anything
#Kekule #benzene #benzol #Omnibus

Hadeny

@elithebearded @nonfedimemes my tired ass was about to go to bed and missed this lol :aaaa:

Nuki: Same Furvert, New Handle

@nonfedimemes
You don't cite it because it's original research, unless you wrote about it in something you published already, in which case you cite that.

Note that there is precedence here, because this has already been done multiple times.

rothko

@Nuki @nonfedimemes yup -- no citation needed, it's not from someone else's work.

Geoff Coffey

@nonfedimemes @Annaspanner In her senior year my daughter did three big “research” papers. Her last paper cited one of the earlier ones. Haha I hadn’t thought about this in a while. What a kook my kid is.

F4GRX Sébastien

@nonfedimemes here is the method in case chatgpt wants to copy it.

1. Open the trash
2. Put your paper in it
3. Close the trash
4. Dont attempt to science again
5. Optionnally burn the trash

enoch_exe_inc

@f4grx @nonfedimemes Was it a copy printed out from your computer? If so, then it’s already too late.

Jehan Le Doe

@nonfedimemes something like : ‡ John B. Goode, "Red tiles house" dream, Boston MA, 2023.

K4mpfie

@nonfedimemes 1)Get a diary
2) Write down your dreams
3) Publish the dream diary (Amazon will publish anything)
4) cite from your dream diary like you would cite any other book

skua

@nonfedimemes

Go the FBI way and find a citable, non-national security, source that has the same information.

Dallas (Join Something IRL)

@nonfedimemes

You would probably cite it as you would a lecture you attended.

The Almighty, Maker of Heaven and Earth, G. (0035, April). A Vision, via bright light. Damascus ; Main Road.

Bodling

@1dalm @nonfedimemes One could introduce it thus:

Edgar Allen Poe once wrote that
"Once upon a midnight dreary, while I pondered, weak and weary,
Over many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore—
While I nodded, nearly napping, suddenly there came a tapping,...."

And on a similar vein, I myself was recently dreaming that....

AtheistIntelligence

@nonfedimemes I believe professional citing for dreams and visions begins with, "booga booga booga."

Agnieszka R. Turczyńska

@nonfedimemes A friend of mine, the scientists, PHD: Amateur. "It is commonly accepted that..." 😏

Matt

@nonfedimemes Do like Jung and don't tell anyone

Omar Antolín

@nonfedimemes Instead of fretting about APA you should just name the person you dreamed about as a coauthor of the paper. That's what mathematician Bob Thomason did:

"The first author must state that his coauthor and close friend, Tom Trobaugh, quite intelligent, singularly original, and inordinately generous, killed himself consequent to endogenous depression. Ninety-four days later, in my dream, Tom's simulacrum remarked, "The direct limit characterization of perfect complexes shows that they extend, just as one extends a coherent sheaf." Awaking with a start, I knew this idea had to be wrong, since some perfect complexes have a non-vanishing K₀ obstruction to extension. I had worked on this problem for 3 years, and saw this approach to be hopeless. But Tom's simulacrum had been so insistent, I knew he wouldn't let me sleep undisturbed until I had worked out the argument and could point to the gap. This work quickly led to the key results of this paper. To Tom, I could have explained why he must be listed as a coauthor. During his lifetime, Tom also pointed out the interesting comparison of the careers of Grothendieck and Newton."

@nonfedimemes Instead of fretting about APA you should just name the person you dreamed about as a coauthor of the paper. That's what mathematician Bob Thomason did:

"The first author must state that his coauthor and close friend, Tom Trobaugh, quite intelligent, singularly original, and inordinately generous, killed himself consequent to endogenous depression. Ninety-four days later, in my dream, Tom's simulacrum remarked, "The direct limit characterization of perfect complexes shows that they extend,...

marilyn

@oantolin @nonfedimemes Haha! How did I get so far in life without knowing that story? But there's a PDF of the paper here: maths.ed.ac.uk/~v1ranick/paper

R🎅🏼B 🏳️‍🌈 RMiddleton.Art

@nonfedimemes
Makes me think of the, "In Xanadu did Kubla Khan a stately pleasure dome decree..." poem.

Hold on. I had to go look it up. Coleridge. All I ever remember of that poem is the note explaining that he attempted to transcribe it directly from a dream but was interrupted. I felt I could relate to that in my younger days. I held an idea that creativity was mysterious and dreamlike and had to be captured. I no longer hold that view. Dreams are great inspiration though.

nytpu

@nonfedimemes Hey, Mendeleev said the periodic table was revealed to him in a dream!

8Petros [I Am Not Lefthanded]_
@nonfedimemes Perfectly adequate question. I am not familiar with APA, but I am sure #Wikipedia has a template for such case.
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