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Indy Richard 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@ChrisMayLA6 The logic seems straightforward to me. Take the NHS as an example. An NHS which uses more and more private resource will not cost us less as we still have to pay for everything we currently pay for but we also have to stump up for profits. As shown by water infrastructure, private big business is way more interested in bonuses than it is in investing in the business. So an NHS with more privatisation will cost more and get worse.

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Neil

@IndyRichard @ChrisMayLA6 they don't care how much it costs, as long as they can cream off tax payers money into their offshore accounts.

Peter Brown

@IndyRichard @ChrisMayLA6 very well put. And amply demonstrated by England’s experience with privatised water companies.

StaringAtClouds

@IndyRichard @ChrisMayLA6 When Labour comes to office it'll be full steam ahead for privatisation of the NHS according to Wes Streeting

And if by some miracle the Torys get back in the NHS won't last the year

We need to try for a coalition & get some of the smaller parties in office

Linda

@staringatclouds @IndyRichard @ChrisMayLA6 fingers cross Streeting loses his seat. I’d love it if Lammy, Reeves and Starmer got binned too, but that’s my Friday fantasy. I note Emily Matias and Lewis Goodall are also questioning whether Labour will be any different to the Tories

Kim Spence-Jones πŸ‡¬πŸ‡§πŸ˜·

@Lassielmr @staringatclouds @IndyRichard @ChrisMayLA6
This is the independent standing against Wes Streeting. Let’s make sure he at least has a tough fight on his hands… maybe that will shake him out of his complacency.
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Lazarou Monkey Terror πŸš€πŸ’™πŸŒˆ

@staringatclouds @IndyRichard @ChrisMayLA6 that man is a traitor to the NHS and to Queers. I would send money to a campaign in his constituency for "Anyone But Wes", the gaslighting shallow prick.....

#WesStreeting #UKPOL #UKpolitics

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@IndyRichard @ChrisMayLA6
Privatization takes the service off the government's books and puts it where you can't see it. This is the purpose of complaining about "tax & spend Liberals" - to shame them into doing something ill-advised that only costs us more.

Paul Brownjohn

@IndyRichard @ChrisMayLA6

Whilst I am not in any way in favour of the privatization of healthcare services, the current privatization drive may nevertheless result in the massive slimming down of the hugely overweight bureaucracy currently absorbing a disproportionate percentage of the NHS budget!

Emeritus Prof Christopher May

@Paulos_the_fog @IndyRichard

Hmmm... well, as I understand it, the bloated bureaucracy is directly linked to putting in places & maintaining the conditions for an 'internal market' in the NHS.... my guess is like US healthcare, more 'privitaisation' will result in more managers not less....

Indy Richard 🏴󠁧󠁒󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

@Paulos_the_fog @ChrisMayLA6 A disproportionate percentage of the NHS budget is spent on servicing PFI debt. Yet another example of private sector taking from the NHS. Am not at all convinced anything will improve with yet more private involvement.

Linda

@Paulos_the_fog @IndyRichard @ChrisMayLA6 Managers make up just less than 3% of NHS workforce. Recent research by Institute for Public Policy Research suggested that the healthcare sector is under-managed, and this increases the burden of bureaucracy that falls on frontline professionals.

Emeritus Prof Christopher May

@Lassielmr @Paulos_the_fog @IndyRichard

Thanks, a little counter-intuitive, but I'm sure that's right - so then the Q. is what sort of management is actually taking place - clinical administration, or the required admin to make the 'internal market' work?

The Penguin of Evil

@Lassielmr @Paulos_the_fog @IndyRichard @ChrisMayLA6 Excellent so all those middle managers universities don't need could move into the NHS and solve two problems at once.

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