Gregory's Server@AuthorJMac The problem is, AI wasn't made for you and me -- people with existing artistic interests. It's made for business dudes, sales bros, and programmers: people who envy the satisfactions of art, and have created a tool to give them the illusion of creativity without the hit to their efficiency or the years of practice.
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My point wasn't to say that people who use AI are programmers -- it's that, by and large, the people using and enthusing endlessly about Generative AI, including business types and computer science types, aren't creative people. As you say -- creative people don't need it. I'm just adding that uncreative people use it as an ersatz replacement for real creativity. @narinarinari @argv_minus_one @AuthorJMac computer science type chiming in: there is actually a lot of creativity involved in engineering (including progamming). This is exactly where LLMs fail in our field as well, being imaginative how to solve a problem. They are fine (and just that) when querying well known problems, but I have yet to see an useful usage of AI there. If a tool can help you reduce the boring parts (and automate them), its good. @brahms @argv_minus_one @AuthorJMac The thing is, I'm sure programming requires creativity -- but I've also lived through the last twenty years, and have seen how that creativity is used in practice to create the most boring, ugly, user-hating money siphons possible. Creative technology was supposed to liberate us, and instead it's made every aspect of modern life not directly related to making money markedly worse. Generative AI is more of the same. @narinarinari @AuthorJMac Wait, no way AI is made for programmers, like the AI generating text also can generate some code, and it seems like some feel like it could reduce programmers? (I would say they are in the same boat as we artists, no?) I would suggest reading the Hacker News comments on any AI topic -- you'll find hundreds of programmers enthusing about how great Generative AI is, and scorning anyone who questions its value as a moron. The difference between artists and programmers using this stuff seems to be, the artists see a disaster looming, while the programmers are gleefully chopping off their own legs with an axe. |
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I would not call any user of “AI” a programmer.
If you know what you're doing, you don't need it; it's useless to you.
If you care about the quality of your work, it's actively harmful to your efforts, and you want it as far away from your project as possible.
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