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Nate Gaylinn

@grimalkina Uhh... that sounds like a red flag to me! I associate that sentiment with discrimination and inequity.

For the record, I don't think that's common in Silicon Valley. I've seen plenty of elitism there, but also a growth mindset and an obsession with self improvement. Not so much talk of "good genes" or innate propensities...

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Cat Hicks

@ngaylinn it is highly complex. Many orgs adopt a lot of language of growth mindset but contradict it. There's lots of implicit ability beliefs particularly in how we assess technical talent. I do think it's pervasive and baked into multiple FAANGs where I've gotten a hard look at their perf design. I mean, I was in a people ops org and then consulted across multiple hiring and diversity initiatives as a researcher so while I was sharing a personal anecdote this is also professional opinion.

Cat Hicks

@ngaylinn it's also pretty strongly evidenced that CS as a field pushes a lot of essentialist views of skill and achievement which I think has impacted many of these orgs.

Nate Gaylinn

@grimalkina I don't disagree! I'm fascinated by how people say and even think they believe a thing, and yet do the opposite. I've seen that quite a bit in terms of explicit "DEI" stuff, so I'd expect it here, too. It's just harder for me to think of examples, especially ones as extreme / obvious as this!

If there are more subtle indicators of this kind of cognitive dissonance that you think are common, I'd love to hear more examples. :)

Phil Davis

@grimalkina @ngaylinn I've experienced this quite a bit as a technical writer: "We are the Engineers, the blessed few who understand the Deep Magic, who wield the arcane symbols of…" My dude, the writing team has been running their own build because you clowns can keep an environment stable for more than 12 hours.

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