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We got an email from the Serbian Registry of Internet Domain Names (RNIDS), the organisation that is responsible for the `.rs` top-level domain.

Looks like they are a big fan of Rust. ๐Ÿ˜Š

Dear Rust Foundation and global Rust community,

We at the Serbian Registry of Internet Domain Names (RNIDS) respect Rust and its global community. Rust has already proven its ability to increase the reliability and security of the internet and the rest of global digital infrastructure. The global Rust community amazes us with its enthusiasm, commitment, and ingenuity.

We are also aware that an increasing number of Rust projects use the .rs domain. As Rust grows and gets adopted as a dependency in many places, there is growing concern about, among other things, whether the use of the .rs domain, Serbia's national TLD, represents a risk or liability.

Being fully aware that we have no control over how the Universe works or what the future holds, we, as the Board of Governors and CEO of RNIDS, would like to reach out to the Rust Foundation and the Rust community to express our support for your efforts and to say that the global Rust community is welcome on the .rs domain.

So, know that you have a friend at RNIDS, and you may contact us with any concerns you may have about any .rs domain that you believe is vital to the Rust ecosystem or the stability and resilience of the global internet infrastructure.

Keep up the excellent work!

Best Regards,
Dejan Djukic CEO & Ivan Minic, Chairman

Serbian National Internet Domain Registry Foundation
ลฝorลพa Klemansoa 18ะฐ/I, 11108 Belgrade, Serbia  |  +381.11.7281.281
rnids.rs  |  domen.rs
54 comments
Lindsey Kuper

@rust I plan to start prepending "Being fully aware that we have no control over how the Universe works or what the future holds," to all my emails.

Adrian Sampson

@lindsey @rust I came here to make exactly this joke. thank you for saving me the typing!

Heiko

@lindsey i love that part of the message too :D

Veronica Olsen ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ๐Ÿ‡ณ๐Ÿ‡ด๐ŸŒป

@lindsey "Being fully aware that we have no control over how the Universe works or what the future holds, I must inform you that the package you shipped to my address has not arrived as scheduled."

Yeah, that works! ๐Ÿ˜‹

@rust

Marijke Luttekes

@lindsey @rust I would trust people more if they freely admitted that instead of trying to claim that everything is fine all the time ๐Ÿฅณ

Bahco

@rust In this case it seems to work out alright, but in general one must be careful with country TLDs and their registrars, witness what happened to queer.af. theverge.com/2024/2/12/2407103

๐•ธ๐”ž๐”ฉ๐”ฆ๐”ซ

@Bahco @rust
I can't assure you that Serbs won't give a single fuck, and that their government's greatest virtue has always been ineptitude and procrastination.

DELETED

@Bahco @rust lol as trash as the Serbian government is (I'm part Serbian and spent half my childhood there so I know a thing or two) it ain't the Taliban...

Lego Frog

@rust Well that's awfully charming of them.

Rachel Rawlings

@rust That's nice AF. Not nice .af, of course....

Terence Eden

@rust @torgo
That's such a lovely and eloquent email!

Clayton

@rust giving countries ownership of TLDs seems like a dumb idea. I guess it's nice that the current government of Serbia supports you using .rs. Hopefully they stay in power, for your benefit.

Leeloo

@craftyguy @rust
If not countries, who should have control of counntry-TLDs?

Projects that don't want to be under a country-TLD can use a different TLD.

wizzwizz4

@leeloo @craftyguy How about me? I can be trusted with control over a ccTLD or three. I just need to learn how this DNS thingy works first, then I'm all set.

Luna :anarchy:

@leeloo @craftyguy @rust ICANN, but there shouldn't be country code TLDs in the first place because countries are extremely temporary structures and can collapse at any time, and the recognition of some is a highly political statement? Language code TLDs would've worked just fine

Leeloo

@lunarna @craftyguy @rust
Most countries last far longer than any web site. Country TLDs are good for when you need an official website and not a nigerian scam site, because the country TLD usually doesn't allow those (never mind that at least here in Denmark, it has become normal to put official websites on some obvious scam domain).

What are language code domains good for? Large websites usually have a language switch, and blogs can be in a mix of English and the bloggers native language.

@lunarna @craftyguy @rust
Most countries last far longer than any web site. Country TLDs are good for when you need an official website and not a nigerian scam site, because the country TLD usually doesn't allow those (never mind that at least here in Denmark, it has become normal to put official websites on some obvious scam domain).

Luna :anarchy:

@leeloo @craftyguy @rust How long an "average country" lasts is fully irrelevant to the point. Public organizations are a horrible justification for country TLDs, .gov exists and it should be opened to non-US entities. The only actual unique purpose country TLDs serve is providing more local and unique domains and language code TLDs do that far better while actually communicating something about the website. Multi-language blogs already have .blog, commercial websites have .com

Leeloo

@lunarna @craftyguy @rust
That makes no sense. How would opening .gov to more countries help me ensure that I'm connecting to a website following Danish law rather than one in some banana republic that barely has a law?

guenther

@craftyguy yeah because random for-profit companies in random countries are generally much better at serving the public interest than publicly owned infrastructure with democratic oversight.

Clayton

@guenther who says the governments controlling TLDs are democratic? And even if they are today, they might not be tomorrow. .af, anyone?

Also, no where did I call for for-profit companies to manage TLDs, so I'm not sure where you got that from ๐Ÿ™ƒ

Joe

@craftyguy @rust As the alternative would be to give either the US government, or whoever can pay the most money, or whoever is chosen by people originally set up by the US DoD and then spin off, control of top level domains, it doesn't seem so bad to me.

Julian Nyฤa

@craftyguy @rust You don't know nothing about who's in power in Serbia at the moment, do you?

Peter Brett

@craftyguy @rust I think it's a perfectly reasonable choice that TLDs that are literally the ISO country code of a country should be controlled (directly or otherwise) by that country's government. If you don't like it, there are many non-country TLDs to choose from.

Ellie

@rust This makes me happy ๐Ÿฅฐ

Riley S. Faelan

@rust It's RS for it's the Republic of Serbia, or Republika Srbija.

Nikola Joviฤ‡

@rust Wow, that's genuinely awesome. Greetings from Serbia. Makes me happy to read that they were so welcoming.

Pxl Phile

@rust that... is an amazing positive email. Congratulations in finding unexpected friends around, I guess

Mister Moo ๐Ÿฎ

@rust I kept waiting for it to get mean and it never did.

Alex Willmer

@rust ccTLDs that are also programming langugage file extensions
.am Armenia, Automake
.as American Samoa, ActionScript
.cc Cocos (Keeling) Islands, C++
.gs South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands, Google App Script
.ml Mali, ML
.mm Myanmar, Objective-C++
.pl Poland, Perl
.pm Saint Pierre and Miquelon, Perl module
.py Paraguay, Python
.rs Rust, Serbia
.sh Saint Helena, Ascension and Tristan da Cunha, Shell
plus many I've no doubt missed

Aleksandar Vaciฤ‡

@rust Serbian RNIDS is (so far) one of those rare truly great things here in Serbia.

the hatter

@rust Aww that's lovely, I remember when more TLDs had a human touch to them.

hnapel

@rust

OMG Replace '.rs' with '.tv' and 'Rust' with 'TV shows' and imagine getting this letter from Tuvalu.

Ayo Ayco

@rust This is the wholesome post the tech world needs.

Ayo Ayco

@rust Also, wow #rustlang has their own #mastodon instance ๐Ÿ™Œ๐ŸŽ‰

mika

@rust as a part of this *problem", I love that a single .rs domain can express both my nationality and the country I come from!

Matt Sicker ืžืชืŸ ื‘ืŸ ืคื˜ืจ (WIP)

@rust I was almost worried for a second there. I think they appreciate the business

overflo PRIME ๐Ÿฅ‰

@rust

well..
rust IS actually really cool.

when my friends ask me if its hard to get into, i tell them there is no learning curve.
rather a learning-wall that you hit really hard and its going to hurt.
but clippy will carry you trough all the pain till you are clean and enlightened.
join the cult!

๐Ÿฆ€๐Ÿฆ€๐Ÿฆ€

Juan Nunez-Iglesias

@rust Iโ€™m jealous and sad that the Paraguayan government does not feel the same way about Python. ๐Ÿ˜‚

JulianWgs

@rust I hope that there is enough love left for link aggregation websites written in Ruby? :D @pushcx

Manuel Landesfeind

@rust ... or could it be that they know exactly how the universe works. And that they realize that they make a fortune selling all the .rs domains. A fortune they cannot make by selling domains to their population of about 7mio people. ๐Ÿ˜‰
Whatever it is... the letter is very lovely ๐Ÿ˜Š

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