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Ralph058 (S/he/it) AF4EZ

@DrTCombs I'm going to qualify this by saying there are workmen that need a pickup.
Now, having said that. 99 and 44/100 of the pickup owners are pure suckers. Trucks do not have to meet all of the performance and safety standards of cars. Other than lesser safety and more impact on the environment per pound. You are paying tens of thousands of dollars for a bunch of steel you don't need.
Park a 1950s F-150 next to today's. Both trucks have the same load capacity, it is coded into the name. You are only paying for size.
Maybe you don't have enough size elsewhere to make you happy with yourself.

18 March at 22:05 | Wall-to-wall | Open on techhub.social
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The Book of Kels

@Ralph058 @DrTCombs

None of these monsters are designed for work. The beds are too high to be convenient for loading/unloading, and some of the capacity gets eaten up by moulded wheel covers and trim.

There's a reason those tiny imported Kei-class trucks are so prized by farmers. They're much more useful.

I fondly remember the quarter-ton Datsun I learned to drive on, back on the farm. You could carry so much with that!

19 March at 0:38 | Open on wandering.shop
Ralph058 (S/he/it) AF4EZ

@Nezchan @DrTCombs Oh, they take care of the loading problem with lift gates.
Most of the workmen drive the 1.5 ton (load) trucks. I've seen a 4.5 trying to negotiate McD drive through. WTF.
No. Some do use them for work.
Most use them to compensate for being small elsewhere.

19 March at 0:47 | Open on techhub.social
equiraptor

@Ralph058 Where are you getting the load of these trucks? Do you mean the payload (that is, the amount of weight the truck can carry)? That amount is not coded in the number in the model name of the truck. Depending on configuration, a 2021 F350 may have a payload as low as 2,890 pounds or as high as 7,850 pounds.

See: media.ford.com/content/dam/for

This is not an unusual year. It's normal for pickup payload to vary by configuration in multiple ways (different GVWR and different curb weight).

@Ralph058 Where are you getting the load of these trucks? Do you mean the payload (that is, the amount of weight the truck can carry)? That amount is not coded in the number in the model name of the truck. Depending on configuration, a 2021 F350 may have a payload as low as 2,890 pounds or as high as 7,850 pounds.

19 March at 13:04 | Open on mas.to
Ralph058 (S/he/it) AF4EZ

@equiraptor Originally, they carrying capacity for the Ford trucks was 1000 pounds for an F-100, 1500 pounds for an F-150, etc.
Similarly there were numbers for Chevy and Dodge.

19 March at 13:21 | Open on techhub.social
equiraptor

@Ralph058 Originally, yeah. But that hasn't been the case for a few decades. You can't assume a pickup's payload by its model name (which you seem to have done in two prior comments).

BTW, an F150 is a half ton truck. There isn't really a "1.5 ton" or "4.5 ton" truck in the common nomenclature, at least in the US.

See: cars.com/articles/what-does-ha

Pickups now CAN carry more than they could in the past. Does it justify the hood height? No.

@Ralph058 Originally, yeah. But that hasn't been the case for a few decades. You can't assume a pickup's payload by its model name (which you seem to have done in two prior comments).

BTW, an F150 is a half ton truck. There isn't really a "1.5 ton" or "4.5 ton" truck in the common nomenclature, at least in the US.

19 March at 13:36 | Open on mas.to
Ralph058 (S/he/it) AF4EZ

@equiraptor I stand corrected.
I have always wanted a fixed height to headlights on all vehicles. I think the impact on heavy trucks would be minimal (headlights in the bumper). The impact on personal trucks would be big because jacking them up (and making the high hood worse) would result in decerting the truck for road use...as it should.
BTW. Some idiot in WI has a jacked up F-350 with the outrigger (reversed?) wheels. Looks totally stupid, but I'm sure he doesn't agree.

19 March at 14:24 | Open on techhub.social
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