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Anil Dash

@_chris_real Ask Marcy what she thinks of this kind of journalism — she'll tell you to support it. There is nothing noble in wanting important work to not be supported, or valuable labor to go uncompensated.

12 March at 13:44 | Wall-to-wall | Open on me.dm
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Chris Real

@anildash

Having a representative of an org with NO presence on Mastodon come here saying 'Hey, if you give us money, maybe we'll like you' is offensive to me.

But since you butted in as a third party, picking a fight by proxy, maybe you shouldn't also put words in the mouth of people you haven't consulted.

Start your OWN fights, "big fan of big fans". You seem to hide behind others.

So I won't explain my objections to you. Make a post with your own opinion, see if people will respond. I doubt if I will.

@anildash

Having a representative of an org with NO presence on Mastodon come here saying 'Hey, if you give us money, maybe we'll like you' is offensive to me.

But since you butted in as a third party, picking a fight by proxy, maybe you shouldn't also put words in the mouth of people you haven't consulted.

12 March at 15:40 | Open on kolektiva.social
Chris Real

@anildash

I searched emptywheel for any references to Pro Publica—nothing in the past 4 years, maybe longer.

And Pro Publica is not hurting for money.

From wikipedia:

"ProPublica was the brainchild of Herbert and Marion Sandler, the former chief executives of the Golden West Financial Corporation, who have committed $10 million a year to the project.

"The Sandlers hired Paul Steiger, former managing editor of The Wall Street Journal, to create and run the organization as editor in chief."

Anyone know how much Steiger makes?

@anildash

I searched emptywheel for any references to Pro Publica—nothing in the past 4 years, maybe longer.

And Pro Publica is not hurting for money.

From wikipedia:

"ProPublica was the brainchild of Herbert and Marion Sandler, the former chief executives of the Golden West Financial Corporation, who have committed $10 million a year to the project.

12 March at 17:04 | Open on kolektiva.social
Chris Real

@anildash

Also:

"While the Sandler Foundation provided ProPublica with significant financial support, it also has received funding from the Knight Foundation, MacArthur Foundation, Pew Charitable Trusts, Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Corporation, and the Atlantic Philanthropies. ProPublica and the Knight Foundation have various connections.

"For example, Paul Steiger, executive chairman of ProPublica, is a trustee of the Knight Foundation. In like manner, Alberto Ibarguen, the president and CEO of the Knight Foundation is on the board of ProPublica. ProPublica, along with other major news outlets, received grant funding from Sam Bankman-Fried, the founder of cryptocurrency exchange FTX.

"ProPublica has attracted attention for the salaries it pays its employees. In 2008, Paul Steiger, the editor of ProPublica, received a salary of $570,000."

@anildash

Also:

"While the Sandler Foundation provided ProPublica with significant financial support, it also has received funding from the Knight Foundation, MacArthur Foundation, Pew Charitable Trusts, Ford Foundation, the Carnegie Corporation, and the Atlantic Philanthropies. ProPublica and the Knight Foundation have various connections.

12 March at 17:08 | Open on kolektiva.social
Chris Real

@anildash

So I'll make a deal with you, Big Follower. You give Marcy $1000, and the next time, I'll go easier on ProPub (who really doesn't need the money—only its lower-tiered journalists do).

Will you take the challenge?

12 March at 17:15 | Open on kolektiva.social
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