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From BBC Press Office:

New technology to show why images and video are genuine launches on BBC News.

‘Content credentials’ feature means visitors to the BBC News site will now see a ‘how we verified this’ button underneath images and videos on BBC Verify content.

bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/2024/con

#C2PA #news #journalism #fakenews #disinformation #misinformation | @BBC_News_Labs

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👻👻 Flippin' spook, Tucker!

@BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs

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new technology to embed this information within the image or video itself

That sounds intriguing - do you have more technical information about this than the Press Release gives?

Gavin

@losttourist @BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs It is a feature rolling out in some high-end cameras at the moment that a few of the big manufacturers have signed up to. It is in the Leica M11-P currently, but not sure what else.

It basically tracks changes to the file in the metadata of the image, from what I understand of it. contentauthenticity.org/faq

BBC News Labs

@losttourist @BBCRD I think we're planning to publish some more information soon...

Alex

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It would be nice to get from time to time, some unbiased reporting, and "truth" about #Scotland from the #BBC...

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@alexlac51 @BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs It would but don't hold your breath on it. Actually, some unbiased reporting on whats happening in the rest of UK or of world news would be nice too,!

Alex

@ScepticalScot1

It all helps, but a look at Fiona Bruce, Kaye Addams and any #BBCScotland news programmes would be a great place to start...

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@alexlac51 @BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs Afraid, I stopped listening to them years ago as it was not good for my blood pressure & though I rarely swear if my thoughts were monitored on a swearometer listening to them it'd be off the Richter scale!

Wen

@alexlac51 @BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs

Don't hold your breath. The clue is in the name.

Alex

@Wen

I know... but I hope that in an #IndependentScotland we won't need or have the #BBC...in any shape or form...

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LonM

@BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs Are there any live pages that have this visible yet? It sounds interesting, would be good to see how it works in practice.

And what are the usage rules going to be - will it be offered for every image or just certain criteria?

Proxfox Virtual Environment 🦊

@BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs slight crash blossom there, i got very confused what a "genuine launches" is

bytebro

@BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs This is ++good news, right? Looking forward to seeing all reputable outlets doing similar soon <holding breath!>

Anomnomnomaly

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But the BBC, still block anyone from using a VPN on their site, regardless of whether they have a TV license or not... because how dare people try to stop invasion of their privacy by an organisation they pay to access but can't.

Why exactly should I pay for a license at all? You won't let me watch anything

bytebro

@anomnomnomaly @BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs A while back when I changed VPN provider I managed to get the iPlayer working by talking to VPN techs and dicking with DNS settings on laptop. Not tried recently, so don't know if it still works - will check later when I get home...

Anomnomnomaly

@bytebro @BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs

It's not just iplayer, it's their entire site at times.

It can't make up it's mind if it will give me a Error code: SSL_ERROR_NO_CYPHER_OVERLAP or work.

But turn the vpn off and it works every single time and never gives any error at all.

badly designed to restrict access to anyone who doesn't allow the bbc to harvest their data

bytebro

@anomnomnomaly @BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs Interesting - in the case of their site(s) as a whole, I can still visit and see, so whatever I did back then seems to be working still.

As a test, I just went to iPlayer and started watching The Commitments, and aside from the "do you have a licence?" and "contains dodgy language, are you sure?", pop-ups it works fine on my phone. Will try on laptop later at home.

FWIW, my VPN is with ExpressVPN.

Anomnomnomaly

@bytebro @BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs

I've been wondering if I need to change my VPN provider... I've always avoided the 'big' ones and use a little Swedish based on called Anonine, but I'm connecting through UK based servers.

bytebro

@anomnomnomaly @BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs If they have adequate tech support, try chatting to their techs. I seem to recall it was a fairly simple change to my local DNS settings - sorry, can't recall the details now...

rothko

@anomnomnomaly @bytebro
i recommend ProtonVPN. they're in switzerland and have a whole suite of security-focused apps. protonvpn.com

bytebro

@rothko @anomnomnomaly Sure, and if someone is looking for a good VPN, that's likely helpful. The chat was about using BBC stuff while the VPN is active.

I can confirm now that I'm home that my ExpressVPN thingy (with a minor tweak on my local DNS, the details of which I can't recall) seems to allow me to watch all the BBC stuff (aside from the pop-ups mentioned earlier in the thread.) Just went back to iPlayer and it played The Commitments fine with my VPN active on the laptop.

Gary Parker

@anomnomnomaly no, they block access from commercial VPN endpoints in known netblocks. Run your own VPN and you're fine.

My point, though is that they don't "block *anyone* from using a VPN", they're selective.

And they block so that people who can't pay for a license fee and/or are in a territory where they sell their content commercially, can't freeload off iPlayer. They're protecting *your* investment as a license fee payer.

You should use broadcast TV or radio; they can't track that

Greg Lloyd

@BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs 🧵#C2PA #BBC

“The [technical Content Credentials] standard comes from a consortium called Coalition for Content Provenance and Authenticity, or C2PA, which was co-founded in 2019 by BBC Research & Development – alongside other members including Adobe and Microsoft… Google recently became a member of the C2PA steering board, and Facebook and OpenAI have made commitments to use the free, open standard to publish content on their platforms.”

contentauthenticity.org

Marc de Palol

@BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs
Very sad that we have come to this.

The need to double check everything :(

That said. Amazing work people!

Stewart Sims

@BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs 👏 this is a great step forward in the age of misinformation, well done to all those involved

Raimondas Lapinskas 🌍
@BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs The origin of most the problems is TRADE, fix it and most of wasted time of patching trade created problems will diminish, so we would have more time in creating beautiful and useful things- trade-free products and services.
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