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Adriano

@polotek @anildash @janl Correct me if I'm wrong, but "the tools actually available to protect ourselves from unwanted federation" are, in this particular case, putting a hashtag on my profile and hoping, or *sending this dude a dm/email*. Or to go ask bluesky to kindly not do that.

14 February at 15:26 | Wall-to-wall | Open on lile.cl
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jake lazaroff replied to Adriano
Adriano replied to jake

@jakelazaroff @polotek @anildash @janl
The question of opt-out vs opt-in is the crux of this issue. People are complaining precisely because this dev is pushing work onto us.

14 February at 15:37 | Open on lile.cl
Andy Gocke replied to Adriano

@adriano @jakelazaroff @polotek @anildash @janl I don’t think the dev is pushing work to you, I think the protocol is. It seems like federation is default opt-out, so every new instance is work for an admin

14 February at 15:58 | Open on hachyderm.io
Marco Rogers replied to Adriano

@adriano @jakelazaroff @anildash @janl right protecting your own personal privacy should definitely be somebody else's work.

14 February at 16:00 | Open on social.polotek.net
Adriano replied to Marco

@polotek @jakelazaroff @anildash @janl

I shouldn't have to explain why somebody coming from a different network with the intent to monetize what I write without my permission and making me do extra work to avoid that is, yes, somebody else pushing work on me that I didn't want. But here we are.

If they wanted to not have a problem with the protocol, they could have made something *with* activityPub. Granted, people wouldn't have liked the monetization bit either, but.

14 February at 16:02 | Open on lile.cl
Marco Rogers replied to Adriano

@adriano @jakelazaroff @anildash @janl um, it is made with ActivityPub. The amount of people who don't actually understand what's happening is pretty wild. Which is entirely my point. You are creating work for other people by not understanding anything about how the system you chose actually works. And then getting mad at them for using it as intended.

14 February at 16:08 | Open on social.polotek.net
Kevin Marks replied to Marco

@polotek @adriano @jakelazaroff @anildash The irony is that Ryan is asking permission, not forgiveness. He hasn't started running a bridge yet. If he had, likely no-one would notice anyway - did you notice that his original post was bridged from his website?
Instead, he's describing how something could work, and people are fantasising something else entirely and condemning him for it. He's not monetizing anything, he runs a bridge between various social networks and blogs that he pays for.

14 February at 16:31 | Open on xoxo.zone
Jan Lehnardt :couchdb: replied to Adriano
Marco Rogers replied to Jan Lehnardt :couchdb:

@janl @adriano @jakelazaroff @anildash sorry Jan. I should stop provoking people. Nobody actually understands my point anyway.

14 February at 16:22 | Open on social.polotek.net
Jan Lehnardt :couchdb: replied to Marco

@polotek oh absolutely not your fault here ;D

14 February at 17:10 | Open on narrativ.es
jake lazaroff replied to Adriano

@adriano @polotek @anildash @janl if you weren’t gonna be satisfied to learn that all the tools mastodon gives you to protect your privacy still work here, why did you ask to be corrected?

14 February at 16:04 | Open on mastodon.social
Adriano replied to jake

@jakelazaroff @polotek
I understand that you and Marco at least are happy with people coming from other networks and monetizing your words with you having to do extra work to avoid that. I'm not.

Also:
Q: "What is the difference between Threads federating and Bluesky being connected through this bridge? Can't you just block it?"

A: I can domainblock threads. I cannot domainblock bluesky and a bridge can be rehosted under different domains by any party with a copy of the code...

@jakelazaroff @polotek
I understand that you and Marco at least are happy with people coming from other networks and monetizing your words with you having to do extra work to avoid that. I'm not.

Also:
Q: "What is the difference between Threads federating and Bluesky being connected through this bridge? Can't you just block it?"

14 February at 16:06 | Open on lile.cl
Adriano replied to Adriano
jake lazaroff replied to Adriano

@adriano @polotek i mean, yeah, that’s the *entire point of activitypub*: anyone can spin up a server that can communicate with yours.

it would be great if mastodon had a way to proactively block servers that identified as bridges or search services or something. but getting mad at this one dude for building a server you don’t like is not gonna fix anything.

14 February at 16:15 | Open on mastodon.social
MooMoo the Cat replied to Adriano

@adriano @jakelazaroff @polotek I was under the impression that our admins could block BS (I assume by blocking the bridge domain).

14 February at 22:25 | Open on mas.to
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