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Eric Schultz

I'm uncomfortable using Bluesky for a very important reason: I don't know how they pay their bills, and despite this, they've taken VC funding. They have no option but to fuck us over at some point.

I'm exhausted by the enshitification cycle. I miss all the friends I've lost from Twitter and I don't want to go through all of this again.

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Anca

@wwahammy they pay their bills with VC money. Same as Uber and Facebook and lots of other startups that were poised to make 1000x

Ronathon Livingston Seagull

@wwahammy like, Jack is a principal; that should be enough to stay away for everyone.

Eric Schultz

@nebkor it's definitely not a vote in favor by any means.

Irina

@nebkor @wwahammy That's my main reason to stay away, yes. (At least, it was until I learned this.)

J. "Henry" Waugh

@wwahammy another service shot down by my personal rule:

Before creating an account on any service, go to your favorite search engine and type "how does _____ make money"

If you don't like the answer, it's "they aren't" (i.e. they are running a loss, whether due to VC funding or other reasons), or it's "we don't know", then don't join

I approve of your take

DELETED

@wwahammy i've just been burned by the #Skiff mail case recently...a mess really. Eyes opener for me.
I think your prediction is very likely to happen at some point.

I am actually more active here on #Mastodon now: when you find the right community, it's a joy, really.

Though, i really like Bluesky from a technical perspective. But, i'm not investing much of myself into it.

seiyria

@wwahammy relatable. Just don't want to deal with all the great stuff that once was going away again. It always does.

EarthOne

@wwahammy I feel your pain. Tried Post, as well, but didn't work for me. Twitter is a great loss, but it's gone. I'm having better luck here: took me a minute but somehow I've found some good follows now. Good luck.

GhostOnTheHalfShell

@wwahammy oh lots of reasons beyond that. they are the reason i think the fediverse is the Right Idea. BBC Lab’s experience says some interesting things about an economically neutral platform like Masto

masto.ai/@GhostOnTheHalfShell/

Robin Jayasinghe

@wwahammy that’s the reason why I never joined that platform and warn everyone trying to do so. They will have to either charge relatively big money or fuck around with your data. 🤡

Graceless Hippo

@wwahammy

Never again will I invest my time in one platform owned by one individual that can be taken away on a whim. Moreover the lack of moderation on twitter was a constant friction & caused me and my friends real pain. Masto/fedi feels safer. I remember what chat forums were like before twitter was a thing and I always knew it could & was done differently.

My greatest regret is the cost of losing friends when I left. That pain is also a product of twitter and I fully blame them for it.

Peter Kovář

@wwahammy Blue what? Never ever touch anything from JaDo. Nor ElMu.

Suzan

@wwahammy I've learned from various sources that Jack Dorsey and Elon Musk are collaborating. With Bluesky, data is not secure (pervasive tracking of online behavior, including IP address, third-party trackers, data leakage). What got me most is Jack Dorsey's 'endorsement' of anti-vaxer 'Independent' /Trumpist Robert F. Kennedy Jr., who had the audacity to compare semi-lockdowns to the suffering of Anne Frank and other people in hiding during the WWII.

The bottom of it all. I prefer Spoutible.

René

@wwahammy why relating on social media while hou can organize a twitterparty to meet them alive.

RAK

@wwahammy: Considering that the CEO has a history of cryptocurrency grifting, I should suspect that the funding is already tainted.

Dan Jacob

@wwahammy I keep it at arms length. Maybe follow a few accounts but under no circumstances post anything. Like some people stay on FB to keep in touch with far away friends and family but keep their engagement to bare minimum.

Johannes Ernst

@wwahammy Bluesky currently generates some revenue as a domain name reseller for those people who buy vanity domains as their Bluesky handle through them. Imho that’s a perfectly acceptable model.

However, I seriously doubt they could ever break even with just that model, never mind return multiples to investors. So far there has been no other answer on revenue models, I’m not sure they know themselves. If it remains an open network, hard to see what they could do.

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