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Hailey

nothing ruins my motivation to send fixes to your open source project more than to ask me to sign a CLA for it.

sorry guys I'm just not that interested in reviewing a legal contract just to improve your software for free

26 February at 3:20 | Open on hails.org
18 comments
barely here

@hailey I’ve abandoned so many PRs and mailing list patches over this. 😬

26 February at 3:39 | Open on tinnies.club
Tursiae

@hailey So much this. I don't care what OSS license the fix is under; BSD, GPL, whatever, but I'm not gonna assign my copyright to someone else.

26 February at 3:40 | Open on meow.social
Hailey

@tursiae totally, and it's just not how the social contract works. I am giving something to you out of my own kindness, take it or leave it, but placing some burdensome task on me is the exact opposite of reasonable

26 February at 3:42 | Open on hails.org
Tursiae
Adrian Chadd <verified.png>

@hailey @tursiae i've been on the other end of this (as much as i hate having to sign anything); interested in hearing what happens to an FOSS project when you don't?

26 February at 4:21 | Open on mstdn.social
Natasha Nox πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡Έ

@erikarn @hailey @tursiae If I don't get it the wrong way right now: look what happened with both the display server "Mir" as well with "upstart", both Canonical. I think those died due to CLA shenanigans.

26 February at 6:30 | Open on chaos.social
Adrian Chadd <verified.png>

@Natanox @hailey @tursiae oh wow, mir's licencing is full of hilarious shenaingans. ew.

26 February at 6:55 | Open on mstdn.social
Gokul Das

@Natanox @erikarn @hailey @tursiae Canonical is repeating exactly the same with LXD. They also changed the license to prevent the Incus team from incorporating their changes. Meanwhile, they still pull in changes from Incus - CLA or not.

26 February at 7:03 | Open on fosstodon.org
Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven

@erikarn @hailey @tursiae There's some nice examples and explanations here: softwareengineering.stackexcha

But as mentioned, it might be the difference between a full volunteer project and one with an organisational entity underlying it.

26 February at 6:56 | Open on mastodon.social
Gokul Das

@tursiae @hailey You usually retain the copyright under CLA. But yes- the results are just as bad.

26 February at 7:10 | Open on fosstodon.org
Anthony Sorace

@hailey @jacqueline Does a DCO have low enough friction to avoid the same reaction? It’s still A Thing To Do, but at least it doesn’t feel like I ought to have a lawyer, I think, but I’m curious if that tracks for you.

26 February at 5:32 | Open on pdx.social
Gokul Das

@a @hailey @jacqueline Would you sign a CLA if the approval procedure is made as simple as DCO's? Is it a matter of principle, or is it a matter of convenience?

26 February at 7:15 | Open on fosstodon.org
Kate

@a @hailey @jacqueline don't they have two different goals? dco is for declaring you have the copyright of a patch (so you are allowed to say it's yours) and cla is for giving up your copyright to someone else?

26 February at 7:35 | Open on social.treehouse.systems
jacqueline 🌟

@hailey i can offer u a c language argument

26 February at 7:19 | Open on chaos.social
Richard Hendricks

@jacqueline @hailey 6 << 6 (sorry it's a MISRA violation, but it's all I got in this economy)

26 February at 8:06 | Open on astronomy.city
the esoteric programmer

@hailey very true. Are you refering to synapse/dendrite?

26 February at 7:29 | Open on social.stealthy.club
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