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Syulang

@elmyra @gerrymcgovern My view is that #degrowth is inevitable and unavoidable simply because infinite growth is literally impossible and always has been.

The question is thus not "Should we pursue degrowth?" but rather "Do we want a managed and organised degrowth, shaped and influenced by human society and our democratic wishes. Or, do we wait for catastrophic, uncontrolled degrowth dished out by natural forces that neither knows nor cares of our collective hopes, dreams and aspirations for society?"

If we have any concern whatsoever for bodycount, we will go with the former.

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dr elmyra

@Syulang @gerrymcgovern I think what the degrowth rhetoric increasingly glosses over in an effort to appease the middle classes is the need for concurrent radical redistribution. Not just from the private jet owning classes either. That article gives me the creeps because it's very much "you'll still have your lawn and white picket fence, you'll just work three days a week".

Gerry McGovern

@elmyra
I was talking to an ecological economist a while back and she was saying that fairness was crucial to dealing with overconusmption. That is the society is fair, people don't feel near as much a need to "keep up with the Joneses'" because their aren't any Joneses. A motto may be: "Nobody gets too high. Nobody let fall too low."

@Syulang

Gerry McGovern

@Syulang
A perfect summation. We'll either degrow or be degrown.

@elmyra

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