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Tim Chambers

FYI, as we look at #spam on the #Fediverse, I do think there are things to prep for TODAY to prepare for whenever #Threads federates.

On that day if/when it happens:

I don't worry about spam hitting US from THREADS, I worry about spammers setting up shop here to flood the 160MM Threads users.

We need to prepare for that day and to be a good neighbor with our own houses in order. For the good of the Fediverse and the good of the open social web in general.

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Robot Cafou

@tchambers

Good. A huge part of fediverse is hostile to threads. I don't want to be a good neighbour for thread because i don't want to be neighbour in the first place. Facebook is not welcome here.

Tim Chambers

@cafou YMMV, but being a less spammy place to those who federate with us helps US too.

Jon

@tchambers @cafou yeah. It's just as relevant for the regions of the fedvierse that aren't federating with Threads. If Threads provides a spam-free environment, and the fedierse provides an environment that's consistenly overrun by spam, that's a recipe for most people choosing Thresda -- and for burnout with fediverse admins and mods.

Jon

@tchambers what's somewhat alarming here is that apparently the spam is winding up on federated timelines even on instances where nobody's following the spammers. So that means that when threads accounts that nobody's following makes transphobic-but-acceptable-to-threads posts they can wind on federated timelines. Of course they can then get reported, and mods can remove them ... but still, there are so many threads accounts that it sounds like a recipe for mod burnout.

Tim Chambers

@jdp23 Can you give specific examples of this?

"what's somewhat alarming here is that apparently the spam is winding up on federated timelines even on instances where nobody's following the spammers. "

I've not seen that. I've seen lots of @ messaging spam mainly so far.

Jon

@tchambers I haven't seen it myself but I'm told it's the case. I've even expressed my befuddlement: I thought stuff only showed up on the federated timeline if somebody was following them or somebody who boosted it, or if somebody local boosted it. But apparently I'm wrong about that?

Tim Chambers

@jdp23 I've not seen it yet either, but will keep my eyes open -- If you do find it share me a screen shot.

Jon

oh that's a good point, I hadn't thought of that! @gunchleoc

@tchambers

Robot Cafou

@tchambers

I think we can agree on this point.
Spam is not good in general. For folks of fediverse.

Hrefna (DHC)

@cafou

Such accounts will not limit themselves to spamming threads, you do realize this, yes?

We'll be drowning in spam and threads's servers won't be the ones that suffer the brunt of it, everyone else will.

@tchambers

Hrefna (DHC)

@tchambers Now this is a threat model worth putting some serious thought into.

Tim Chambers

@hrefna Thank you. The attack we've been managing seems akin to this, but the one we are in now is an attack using us against Discord.

Kern 🏳️‍🌈

@tchambers@indieweb.social I think fedi generally has a huge moderation advantage, being a collection of relatively small servers..
but the recent spam wave surprised me with how many "dead" instances are susceptible, aren't keeping up with security updates etc

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