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Johannes Ernst

The hosted Jitsi service that many people in the Fediverse appear to prefer over, say, Zoom is operated by 8x8, a NASDAQ-traded public company.

I wonder how this makes Jitsi somehow more acceptable to the Fediverse than Zoom. Yes, I understand that Jitsi has an open-source implementation, but if you use a commercially-operated freemium service like meet.jit.si that appears to make very little difference re privacy etc.

What am I missing?

#Zoom #Jitsi #Fediverse

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Dan Sugalski

@J12t it may less be that people think Jitsi is good and more that the repeated egregious security flaws and shadiness in Zoom’s past has made people think they’re still untrustworthy. (Jitsi may be too, just we’re less aware of its issues)

LPS

@J12t
The difference is that there are community hosted instances.. 🤷‍♂️

Johannes Ernst

@lps ... but then people will actually need to use those, as long as the hoster is trusted in that particular community.

LPS

@J12t for me, the biggest issue with Zoom was AI training and the fact that they were exposed as not actually have working encryption.

There are many public instances

jitsi.github.io/handbook/docs/

from trusted communities like framasoft and the fsf for example.

jitsi.member.fsf.org/

However, I see your point, that many would not explore other options than the main instance. A similar issue to all fediverse applications like Mastodon as well.

Alex Schroeder

@lps @J12t Perhaps there is also the nerd influencer aspect at work. I use a community hosted Jitsi instance and tell others about Jitsi and so trust is transitive: a handful of people now like Jitsi even if they don’t use a community hosted instance. It’s not necessary for all those who like Jitsi to use a community hosted instance.

LPS

@alex @J12t on this topic, I just stumbled on call.element.io/ by the developers of #matrix #element has anyone used it?

Julian Lam

@J12t the folks at #NLNet seem to like using #Galene, a single executable meeting server software. Seemed pretty stable too!

der.hans

@J12t I'd rather support a company that is making FLOSS

I want to avoid proprietary blobs, even in my browser

I paid for a jitsi instance from 8x8 until they insisted my email address be visible in the conference room

I still pay for and use a BigBlueButton instance from a 3rd party provider

I know multiple people who run their own instances of jitsi or BBB

specific to zoom, it had time limitations, insisted on installing a proprietary client and other service issues that disqualified it

Klaus Vink Slott

@J12t
Being open source is what makes a difference to me. So "if" the company behind gets caught doing bad things™, I could just take the code and run a new hub for myself and friends.

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