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Ben Hardill

@BBCRD A rolling track listing from the 6Music folk would be appreciated 🎧

👻👻 Flippin' spook, Tucker!

@ben @BBCRD Fedi already has more than one unofficial "Now Playing on 6Music" bot. For example @JBsWhatsOn6

While I'm sure that an official version would be nice it probably shouldn't be BBC R&D's highest priority for the Fediverse right now.

👻👻 Flippin' spook, Tucker!

@ben @BBCRD @JBsWhatsOn6 Actually I've thought about this some more.

It really really shouldn't be the BBC's job to provide "Now Playing" bots for its radio or television programmes.

What the BBC should be doing is making sure that the necessary data is easily available via RSS or a well documented API, and then letting other people build the services based on that.

Decentralise the data rather than nagging a giant corporation to provide a specific service.

#OpenData #BBC #6Music #Data #RSS

John B

@losttourist @ben @BBCRD @JBsWhatsOn6 At least the BBC stations do post whats-playing to last.fm, then bots can use the API there. And RSS is available from Mastodon; just add /rss to the username eg dizl.de/@JBsWhatsOn6.rss and load that in your favourite RSS reader!

👻👻 Flippin' spook, Tucker!

@johnb_rox @ben @BBCRD @JBsWhatsOn6 The Mastodon account whose RSS feed you linked is not a BBC account and in theory could be subject to a BBC cease-and-desist request although I doubt they'd ever do that.

But really it should be the BBC themselves, as the source of the information, who ought to be providing an RSS feed or other way to officially obtain the data.

Chris Jakobsen

@BBCRD sorry, haven't seen any #GQT #gardening content so far, it is @BBCRadio4 , isn't it? Please!
Cc @BBCRadio4

Rotan

@BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs @Connected_Studio @BBCRadio4 @BBC5Live

I've pointed out before that you have not added a Mastodon link to your list of socials on your home page. To increase visibility, please add a Mastodon link!!

Simon 🥧 man 🥥🌴 🇺🇸

@rotan @BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs @Connected_Studio @BBCRadio4 @BBC5Live agreed, it's like doing a trial without actually trying... Large media orgs like the BBC could drive huge numbers of people to Mastodon and drive growth and engagement across the board. As it is I've seen little or anything of the BBC content I know and love - news, weather, etc. and the brand continues to get diluted by bots and scam accounts trading on the BBC name.

ian

@enmodo @rotan @BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs @Connected_Studio @BBCRadio4 @BBC5Live
Yes, by promoting those centralised platforms on the websites, the BBC is recommending people join Twitter and Facebook, telling people they are good. Thus driving people to toxic networks. But not towards any decentralised networks.

Then you say you are judging "how many people we’d reach" when you are actually 'influencing' where people are.

I must assume the BBC receive advertising money from those adverts?

This makes the BBC look out of touch.

@enmodo @rotan @BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs @Connected_Studio @BBCRadio4 @BBC5Live
Yes, by promoting those centralised platforms on the websites, the BBC is recommending people join Twitter and Facebook, telling people they are good. Thus driving people to toxic networks. But not towards any decentralised networks.

Don Thompson

@BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs @Connected_Studio @BBCRadio4 @BBC5Live
Mixed success in following these accounts. BBCRadio4 has sat on [Requested] forever.

Rihards Olups

@guardeddon Could it be related to your instance? It's not a restricted account and can be followed immediately.

Don Thompson

@richlv
DonMt think so, checked with the instance operator. He couldn’t help.

Rihards Olups

@guardeddon Sorry to hear that. All that I can offer is "worksforme" :)
I doubt BBC sees anything to approve either.

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@guardeddon
Couldn't isn't the same as wouldn't. If he's using any of the various spurious lists of vast blocks it's likely he's blocking BBC's instance.
@richlv

Jennifer Moore

@guardeddon

I had this with following someone, and it turned out it had glitched - they couldn't see the request, but when I unfollowed and followed again, it worked.

Don Thompson

@unchartedworlds
I have done that a number of times. Two of the BBC accounts are fine, I’m shown as following. Others stuck as [Requested]. Somewhat annoyed that no-one connected with the BBC accounts has responded, it’s not as if they’re busy posting or each post garners a host of replies!

Jennifer Moore

@guardeddon

Aaah right - well I hope you do get a reply!

Jamie

@guardeddon Might be your server? My follow request was fulfilled immediately.

Don Thompson

@mooch I did check it out with the mod/admin/provider of my instance but couldn’t resolve. I belive Qoto does run on fork of Mastodon. But at least one of the BBC accts does ‘work’ as expected…

Snail

@BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs @Connected_Studio @BBCRadio4 @BBC5Live I get wanting to think about News feeds carefully first but one thing I'm curious about is that I have a couple of bot accounts fed from different BBC News RSS feeds, and I know I'm not the only one

Do you have any feel for how many such mirror accounts there might be? I think that sort of discovery can be hard on the Fediverse but can you tell from the web server logs?

DELETED

@BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs @Connected_Studio @BBCRadio4 @BBC5Live

But no news....

People are relying on a 3rd party bot, because they were expecting news from YOU.

Peter Gordon ✅️

@BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs @Connected_Studio @BBCRadio4 @BBC5Live

Thanks for continuing to be a part of the fediverse. If I had one suggestion, it would be to please put more #ElisAndJohn content on the 5 live feed 😁

INPC

@BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs @Connected_Studio @BBCRadio4 @BBC5Live

+1 for 6 Music and can you get rid of shady guy Robin Gibb (not Bee Gees) or at least tell him I called him a bellend. Thanks! :pg:

kim_harding ✅

@BBCRD @BBC_News_Labs @Connected_Studio @BBCRadio4 @BBC5Live

What works is publishing more content, your feeds are really thin at present!

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