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Darius Kazemi

After reviewing my ~100th GPT-generated cover letter I am ready to write an essay on the literary style of the GPT cover letter.

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martin

@darius I just put out an ad for a producer job and I am awaiting these with horror and trepidation

Darius Kazemi

@mewo2 I highly recommend going to ChatGPT and prompting it with "Write me a cover letter for a [job title] job at [specifically name your company, maybe with a brief description of what they do]. It came back with a variant of what I'm seeing from everyone

Brian Hawthorne

@darius @mewo2 Wow. Just did this for a job I am hiring for, and damned if that cover letter from ChatGPT-4 (Bing) didn’t read just like the cover letters we got.

Darius Kazemi

@bhawthorne @mewo2 I prompted "Write a cover letter to a journalism and technology nonprofit called Meedan. It is for a Frontend Engineer job."

Raven Onthill

@darius @bhawthorne @mewo2 and of course the people who are doing this never stop to think that you can have chatGPT write a letter too for comparison. You could even have a script that compares incoming letters with the chatGPT sample.

Compute the Hamming distance…

martin

@darius thankfully we don't ask for cover letters (and there's nowhere on the form to add one) but I'll definitely be having a play around with some of our questions

James M.

@darius @mewo2 "Write me a cover letter for [...] that does not look like it was generated by an LLM."

mx

@darius Wondering what are the most blatant giveaways?

Darius Kazemi

@mx There are many I could point out, but here's one that's top of mind: there is a lot of US high-school English class five-paragraph-essay structure. Usually the second- or third-to-last paragraphs begin with a classic transition like

"Moreover, ____"

"Furthermore, ____"

"On the other hand, ____"

"Simultaneously, ____"

Of course no one thing is a tell, it's the overall "smell" of the thing, lots of little points that add up and a complete lack of any and all personality.

Darius Kazemi

@mx The thing is that there are humans who write like this! But in previous years it was not 95 out of 100 cover letters that looked like this, more like 15 out of 100

mx

@darius This is interesting - thanks for sharing! I've never written a cover letter in my entire life, so now I'm curious what does a good one look like

Adam Gessaman :vcoffee:

@darius Ugh. That sounds miserable.

Have you sorted them into piles for ChatGPT, Claude, and Llama? They have pretty distinct styles.

Darius Kazemi

@adam I don't know about Llama. Claude tends to make shit up, like asserting things about the company I work for and the job I do. GPT keeps things more vague. I think the vast majority of the cover letters I see are GPT-derived

Jesse Baer 🔥

@darius Oof. Tempted to send this to my friend who told me she's using ChatGPT for cover letters, but I'd feel mean. Job applications suck.

Darius Kazemi

@misc I think it can be a good starting place to customize from, really not much different than googling "cover letter examples" and starting from there.

Darius Kazemi

@misc a lot of what I'm getting seems to be straight copy/paste, it's wild

Jesse Baer 🔥

@darius Like things that don’t make sense in context?

Darius Kazemi

@misc yes, sometimes just straight up nonsense

Darius Kazemi

@misc but also no one takes care to edit the content so that it's in their own voice rather than soulless robot voice?? it's wild to me that nobody thinks "would I ever write this way"

Darius Kazemi

@misc but yeah a big problem is the "advantage" of GPT is it does attempt to customize the letter to the company, but then it gets subtle details about the company and what it does wrong! but not in a way someone would really notice unless they paid close attention

Bobby

@darius @misc One of my grad students is writing her final essay about gen. ai and job application literacy. I *think* we're going to publish them all online somewhere.

Jesse Baer 🔥

@darius I suspect that for some people the whole process is just so cringey that they want to get it as far away from themselves as possible and not look back. And for other people, they’re just hella lazy and don’t give a shit.

Darius Kazemi

@misc yeah. I'm wondering if we should just remove the cover letter field from our application. it's basically useless now

James M.

@darius @misc even as someone who dislikes writing cover letters, I think they're still needed to explain why someone's a match for *this particular position* in a way that a resume doesn't cover, unless people just make a custom resume for each job they apply to. (Which some do, I realize.)

Kevin Boyd

@darius @misc I mean, based on what you're saying, it doesn't sound useless at all. In fact, it seems like a very strong signal about how that person will approach the job - and could help avoid considerable future liability for certain types of organizations.

meetar

@darius pretty sure I once got a callback purely because I put “Left Nostril in a Mucinex commercial” in that field

[DATA EXPUNGED]
Darius Kazemi

@fifilamoura @misc yeah, I get that it's kinda automation all the way down for a lot of positions. I think it's interesting that people assume small companies automate a ton

Brian Hawthorne

@darius Next up, job applicants using ChatGPT to guide their answers to remote interviews.

christa

@darius oh no is chat gpt going to make me back off of my "cover letters are good, actually" hiring stance

bentosmile🍱

@darius wow, that must be exhausting. o_o (do you interview the chatGPT people or bin them lol)

I find it intriguing and frustrating at the same time, thinking about anything "AI" related

nimstodon

@darius I am very ready to read that essay

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