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Andrew Theken

@marcan Firstly, thanks for all the work you appear to have done on X over the years. This is an interesting post that I vaguely understand, but not entirely. :-)

My primary use case for X11 is still to pipe a gui to xquartz on macos over ssh.

Do you have any knowledge about how I could move this workload to Wayland? (I'm excited for Wayland, but not sure how it compares to my existing case)

@Migueldeicaza's tweet from two years ago is basically the only thing that turns up on google about it

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Hector Martin

@atheken @Migueldeicaza I've never touched X at all, that story is my retelling as a mere user roughly familiar with the technical details over the years :) (other than my recent run-ins as part of the Asahi project, but I haven't actually contributed anything, I mostly gave up after seeing the state of things).

I don't think there's a Wayland equivalent for your workload, but you also shouldn't have any pressing need to "move to Wayland". What's dying and on life support is the bare metal X server. If you are piping X apps to xquartz, you aren't using that. So while at some point I guess apps will deprecate X backends and be Wayland-only, that day is not today and hopefully by then someone has written a Wayland equivalent to xquartz that can run with waypipe.

@atheken @Migueldeicaza I've never touched X at all, that story is my retelling as a mere user roughly familiar with the technical details over the years :) (other than my recent run-ins as part of the Asahi project, but I haven't actually contributed anything, I mostly gave up after seeing the state of things).

Andrew Theken

@marcan fair enough, I looked at some of your work after replying (since you did seem quite knowledgeable about X). And thank you for _that work_.

I guess I’m just feeling antsy because XQuartz feels like it is stagnant/on life support.

Anyway, thanks for the reply!

Ian Douglas Scott

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@atheken
GUI apps in WSL2 make use of an rdp backend for weston to allow Wayland and X apps to appear in Windows. So something like that might be appropriate here, though I don't know if it's currently practical.

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