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The Penguin of Evil

@cstross Looks like it. The 'solar panels are toxic' and the 'heat pumps only work on the equator' bunch too

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Chris Hopkins

@etchedpixels @cstross I'll try and remember to be cold and understand why my heating bills have gone down then.

Kudra :maybe_verified:

@cbehopkins @etchedpixels @cstross Same! Also how I manage to charge my EV largely from my solar panels when at home, so only about 1/4 of my mobility actually costs money.

Patrick Johanneson ๐Ÿš€

@etchedpixels @cstross Are there really people claiming heat pumps only work at the equator? Because I'm in Manitoba, there's snow on the ground already, and our heat pump's been keeping the house warm (and cool, in the summer) for like 15 years now.

The Penguin of Evil

@pjohanneson @cstross Uk targetting petrol/gas smogheads insist that heatpumps don't work in the UK as it's too cold and solar because it's too far North. I guess the trolls tailor to their audience ?

Charlie Stross

@etchedpixels @pjohanneson Solar *is* problematic here in Scotland; in midwinter we get 6 hours of light out of every 24, so would be reliant on storage and need far more area under PV to make it work. (And we tend to live in dense apartments, so less roof area per person. And power consumption maxes out on winter nights for heating, not summer daytime for air conditioning.)

However we're a world leader for wind farms, which currently provide 94% of our power.

Workshopshed

@cstross @etchedpixels @pjohanneson here in Ayrshire we saved approx 60% of our electricity bill ( cooking, washing, lighting) last year thanks to solar and battery. But the house still uses gas for heating though.

workshopshed.com/2023/10/solar

Magnus Ahltorp

@cstross @etchedpixels @pjohanneson The most north Iโ€™ve been in Scotland is Ullapool, and that is still south of Stockholm. Here we have quite a lot of solar power, and I believe itโ€™s quite popular even further north, but totally relying on it is difficult, as you say.

Even if dense apartments mean less roof space, they leak less heat, so thatโ€™s an advantage.

P J Evans

@etchedpixels @cstross
My parents had a heat pump in west Texas. It worked fine, even when it was 0F outside.

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