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“we can’t find any good candidates for this role” you’re auto-rejecting people with 20 years experience because they don’t have a degree and then AI-sorting the rest by how Jared their name is

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Christopher Hunter

@0xabad1dea I think employers should be on the hook even if regular quantitative ranking methods show a bias, AI just puts a fake layer on it

katana crimson

@0xabad1dea I'm laughing so hard at the "machine learning is money-laundering for bias" remark, it's painfully accurate.

aismallard (relocated!)

@0xabad1dea but the Data™ says lacrosse skills correlate with workplace performance

shac ron ₪‎

@0xabad1dea You can put any name you want on your resumé, they don’t check. Just tell them your legal name when they want to make you an offer.

ClickyMcTicker

@shac @0xabad1dea
Speaking as a non-manager who sits on interviews for new employees, having an entirely different name on your resume is going to be a massive red flag (for me, at least). If you’re casually lying about your name, what else are you flat out lying about? Do most people exaggerate on their resume? Probably. Do I want someone who will call a customer and lie about their name? Absolutely not.

Andreas Scherbaum

@ClickyMcTicker @shac @0xabad1dea the way to handle this is to not ask for a name in the first place. There is even a bias in names by itself, like if the name is common in certain parts of the world.

Jason Petersen (he)

@0xabad1dea

Hey maybe the AI are trained on annoying American jewelry jingles, who knows?

youtu.be/Hvba_LDUC_E?feature=s

it can only be 🎵JAAAREEEEEED🎶

remote procedure chris

@0xabad1dea and the HR people don't know this stuff, which means they're trying to find you a junior who has 4 years of experience in your entire stack who will work non remote for the cost of breathing in your new york or SF office (i've applied to these jobs, too, and they still don't call you if you don't have a degree) and coming up with nothing

remote procedure chris

@0xabad1dea i had an interview not too long ago with a surprisingly big company where the internal recruiter said she'd been giving the guy heaps of people who do their stack and he didn't like them, came back to her and said to find someone with passion and energy for the work (it was a salesforce stack), then the interview wasn't about any of the things i was told to anticipate. they'd been trying to fill this role since last year

xek (👻🏴‍☠️👻)

@0xabad1dea My first thought upon reading "how Jared their name is" was "OR if they played lacrosse!"

We are truly all Tanagrians now. Perhaps we were all Tanagrians and unaware of it. Picard, his eyes open.

DELETED

@0xabad1dea or more likely, the pay is crap for the responsibilities.

Mikołaj Hołysz

@0xabad1dea don’t forget requiring 15 years of experience in Swift and 10 years of experience in Rust 🙂

Mark Eichin

@miki
I talked someone down from "5-10 years experience in C++" back in 1989. "No, Bjarne doesn't want the job"
@0xabad1dea

Pete Wright
@0xabad1dea
I love how in the odd chance you do make it through to an interview there will be a "skills test" of some sort - to just reinforce the fact that the pre-screening poo we use is next to useless at evaluating a persons individual skillset. (and no, i'm saying interview tests are a good measure of this either).
Debbi/Swiftisms13

@0xabad1dea As someone who is looking to change jobs, his is terrifying. Thanks for sharing.

arcade

@0xabad1dea oh my god now I want to make a company staffed entirely by jareds

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