Gregory's Server
π Hi there. This is a reply from the #vidiverse
(Only joking π .. just not much of a fan of giving each application type its on *-verse name)
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 @pinkyfloyd @helge @smallcircles @liaizon I say we need more people joining work on projects like #Vocata, that separate UI from content and allow using the same identity for as many different UIs as you want. To make a viable tech demo, we need someone to help with implementation of a demo web client to drive things forward (it's very clear how to do it, but I cannot do all the work alone, someone who enjoys translating ideas into JavaScript is needed)   @liaizon @Natureshadow @pinkyfloyd @smallcircles @lrhodes @bengo Iβm starting to be more aware of a fundamental philosophical tension here. On one hand, an idea that content is fungible. Text is text, images are images. A subscription is a follow is a friend. On the other: a humanism that bristles at this kind of decontextualization. Communities and relationships are about mutuality and shared context. @liaizon @Natureshadow @pinkyfloyd @smallcircles @lrhodes @bengo I donβt think it should be one or the other, but we have to keep aware of the tradeoffs. As we make things increasingly freeform on the sender and recipient side, we lose the sense of discrete communities with shared understandings. @liaizon @Natureshadow @pinkyfloyd @smallcircles @lrhodes @bengo I think all of the following come back in some way to this tension: UX roughness of Friendica groups or Lemmy/kbin posts on Mastodon timelines; people not understanding the point of character limits and seeing them as nuisances; chronic cultural collisions over race, gender, and US-centrism; heated debates over quotes, search, and Meta.  @misc @liaizon @Natureshadow @pinkyfloyd @smallcircles @bengo And context collapse is sorta built into the Fediverse, because we're all viewing posts from the context of our own servers. I know from the roadmap that Mastodon is exploring deprecating the Local timeline in favor of more flexible lists, but I actually think the HomeβLocalβFederatwd dichotomy s useful for emphasizes the plurality of contexts we're dealing with on the network.  @lrhodes totally agree that the local timeline is valuable on many instances and important conceptually β¦ but itβs not useful on an instance as big as mastodon.social. So if they deprecate it, ifβd be another example of mainline masto deprioritizing needs of smaller instances @misc @liaizon @Natureshadow @pinkyfloyd @smallcircles @bengo @jdp23 @liaizon @smallcircles Yup. And the hell of it is, I don't know if the devs would even see it that way. If they're interacting with the broader network primarily through .social, then they may not even see clearly how the needs of smaller instances differ. Their field of vision may be entirely filled by the idea that only proper function of an instance is to connect individuals to some grand unified network that is more conceptual than real. |
@smallcircles I don't disagree that coming up with new names for things that could be described more easily would be the better option, but saying "lemmy and kbin" over and over doesn't roll off the tongue. And I also don't want to refer to it by "the reddit part of the fediverse"
there IS something distinct going on and we need a way to refer to it and other people have come up with Threadiverse quite organically.