@bugaevc @marcan @nicolas17 by extension, however,...

by extension, however, the point is that any resource that can possibly interact with mach should be backed by resources accessible by mach. e.g. kernel handles of all kinds.

it is, admittedly possible that apple has decided to something far more cursed, like translate resources to be accessible by the mach layer as needed, but this seems far more complicated than just backing all kernel resources by mach ports to begin with

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Ariadne Conill 🐰

@bugaevc @marcan @nicolas17

though it seems that you're right that file handles do not normally have mach ports on Darwin (which is surprising to me):

a program which does nothing has 11 ports opened. modify that program to open a file and it still only has 11 ports opened.

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20 May 2023 at 6:27 | Open on social.treehouse.systems

Sergey Bugaev

@ariadne @marcan @nicolas17 there is a semi-public way to wrap an fd into a Mach port (fileport) that you can then send to another process via Mach IPC, and then unwrap to receive an fd in the new process (kind of like SCM_RIGHTS). But this is just that, an explicit wrapper.

20 May 2023 at 6:53 | Open on floss.social