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Ryan Hamel

@luana @Mastodon How is that any different from email? Gmail on Android, Outlook on Windows, iCloud for Apple. Every OS vendor has their own preloaded email app that prefers themselves. Email is decentralized at the protocol level, while advertising is what sways people to a particular provider.

1 May 2023 at 17:37 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.social
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@Mastodon @mrhamel As I said, Apple, Google and Microsoft were never created with decentralization in mind.

1 May 2023 at 17:41 | Open on tech.lgbt
Danny Boling โ˜ฎ๏ธ

@luana @Mastodon @mrhamel

We shouldn't want to be like Apple, Google or Microsoft anyway. We're different and proud of it. Right?

1 May 2023 at 23:47 | Open on mstdn.social
Ryan Hamel

@IAmDannyBoling @luana @Mastodon All depends on how you want to gain adoption. Adding friction by making a user select from a myriad of unknown servers would make the process all the more difficult. That new user may not know the admin/moderation team, and their account could disappear tomorrow without a trace. Mastodon is not novice friendly.

2 May 2023 at 0:00 | Open on mastodon.social
Danny Boling โ˜ฎ๏ธ

@mrhamel @luana @Mastodon

I'll repeat: Nobody is "adding" friction. It's already there. And it hasn't prevented millions of people from signing up. Could it be made easier? Probably. But if it's done like Big Tech wants it done, THAT will assuredly kill Mastodon.

2 May 2023 at 14:55 | Open on mstdn.social
Vi

@mrhamel @Mastodon @luana But that is bad. You see how that is bad, right?

1 May 2023 at 18:40 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
Ryan Hamel

@vi @Mastodon @luana Do you understand that Analysis Paralysis is a thing? Giving people too many options will cause problems, let alone them choosing the wrong server and something happens to that user or the server.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analysis

1 May 2023 at 18:43 | Open on mastodon.social
Vi

@mrhamel @luana @Mastodon Of all the possible solutions to that, obscuring that choice to users seems sloppy at best. We all know where that road ends.

1 May 2023 at 18:50 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
Ryan Hamel

@vi @luana @Mastodon How do you come up with a list of well moderated and/or big servers, without any sort of (centralized) committee?

1 May 2023 at 18:52 | Open on mastodon.social
Vi replied to Ryan

@luana @Mastodon @mrhamel That was what was there before, wasnโ€™t it? Maybe not the ideal solution, but at least it presented the choice and something fundamental about the decentralized nature of the fediverse. If there was room for improvement, then improve it. Not just take it away.

1 May 2023 at 19:00 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
Peter Kal replied to Vi

@vi @luana @Mastodon @mrhamel
People don't wanna know how their social media platform works, they just wanna use it. People also don't like change, there is a reason why many people don't like twitter but they are not willing to migrate. Making the sing-up process simpler and more straightforward, while also ensuring that users want go on a instance where their moderators see racism as nothing wrong, its a win for mastodon's UX. For the de/tion, it takes more users from centralized platforms.

1 May 2023 at 21:02 | Open on fosstodon.org
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@peterkal @Mastodon @mrhamel @vi And then when all mastodon users are in mastodon dot social, an idiot can just buy it and own most of the fediverse because people arenโ€™t encouraged to choose a smaller server anymore. Great idea.

1 May 2023 at 21:04 | Open on tech.lgbt
Peter Kal replied to ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ๐ŸŽƒ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ทLuana๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ท๐ŸŽƒ๐Ÿณ๏ธโ€๐ŸŒˆ

@luana @Mastodon @mrhamel @vi
No, its different.
Moving from mastodon.social to another instance is not as hard as moving to twitter to fediverse. All it takes is some clicks with the people you follow and your followers coming with you.

1 May 2023 at 21:08 | Open on fosstodon.org
Zeke replied to Peter

@peterkal @luana @Mastodon @mrhamel @vi that's not true if your account is suspended. Ask me how I know (it's because I was suspended from masto.ai with no stated cause or warning)

2 May 2023 at 12:17 | Open on elonsucks.org
Peter Kal replied to Zeke

@Zeke @luana @Mastodon @mrhamel @vi
True, but still is easier for your followers to, well..
follow you.

2 May 2023 at 12:20 | Open on fosstodon.org
Zeke replied to Peter

@peterkal @luana @Mastodon @mrhamel @vi In my case, I was not able to set up the redirect from my banned account, so what I could export was the list of people I followed, but not my followers (or properly, I could export a csv list of them too, but no way to say 'hey, I've moved' and they're still following the old account instance)

I don't see an easy solution here

2 May 2023 at 12:25 | Open on elonsucks.org
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