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Christian Pietsch πŸ‘
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Steve Dinn

@chpietsch @Mastodon I hear you. But they basically already exist because you can always link to another post. We may as well have some proper UI around them and get notified when they happen.

digitalcourage.social/@chpiets

1 May 2023 at 16:48 | Open on social.dinn.ca
Christian Pietsch πŸ‘

@steve Anyway, the bigger problem is that @Mastodon or rather @Gargron seems to have given up on decentralization. He thinks people are too dumb to understand the difference between a software and an instance running that software.

1 May 2023 at 16:53 | Open on digitalcourage.social
Hiker
@chpietsch I don't know what he is thinking, but it is the wrong way. @steve @Mastodon @Gargron
1 May 2023 at 17:30 | Open on social.fedcast.ch
Jan Niklas Fingerle

@chpietsch
I, too, disagree with his decision. I do so without misrepresenting his reasoning.

@steve @Mastodon @Gargron

1 May 2023 at 17:33 | Open on social.saarland
Christian Pietsch πŸ‘
Jan Niklas Fingerle

@chpietsch
(1) @Gargron explicitly advocates for decentralisation, and (2) he never says people are dumb (he rather points out a way he wants to educate and convince people, which would contradict the assumption of dumbness).

I don't agree with him. I believe, most people will stay with their first instance, no matter what. Such, I am missing him explaining, how he wants to "push" people to migrate. But that doesn't give me the right to misrepresent what he said.

@steve @Mastodon

@chpietsch
(1) @Gargron explicitly advocates for decentralisation, and (2) he never says people are dumb (he rather points out a way he wants to educate and convince people, which would contradict the assumption of dumbness).

I don't agree with him. I believe, most people will stay with their first instance, no matter what. Such, I am missing him explaining, how he wants to "push" people to migrate. But that doesn't give me the right to misrepresent what he said.

1 May 2023 at 20:56 | Open on social.saarland
Christian Pietsch πŸ‘
Jan Niklas Fingerle

@chpietsch
Other than what? The 0-hypothesis should be, that @Gargron believes the things he lays out in his blog post. He might be wrong (I believe he is), but nevertheless it explains his actions.

You seem to think that he's lying. If so, make it explicit and accept the burden of proof. If not, how do you reconcile your description with the contents of the blog post?

@steve @Mastodon

1 May 2023 at 22:50 | Open on social.saarland
the roamer

@chpietsch @steve @Mastodon @Gargron

Agree on both items, QP and centralisation, it looks like a climbdown on both. Sad, sad day. And the vulgar "you asked for it..." language makes it worse.

1 May 2023 at 17:40 | Open on mastodonapp.uk
Lien Rag

@chpietsch

The difficulty of choosing an instance is actually a real problem that turned a lot of people off Mastodon.
But answering that by onboarding everyone on Mastodon.social is a bad answer to this real problem.

@steve @Mastodon @Gargron

1 May 2023 at 18:28 | Open on mastodon.tedomum.net
Manuel QuiΓ±ones

@lienrag @chpietsch @steve @Mastodon @Gargron but is a good immediate solution. Don't you think? In my own personal experience I have been very insatisfied after passing to such painful onboarding, having to read a lot about fedi-things before joining.

2 May 2023 at 1:20 | Open on mastodon.uy
deutrino

@chpietsch @steve he hasn't given up on anything, he didn't give a fuck about decentralization from the get-go. he's trying to make mastodon.social as big as possible in order to further consolidate power and/or sell out.

1 May 2023 at 18:30 | Open on mstdn.io
DasTausW

@deutrino @chpietsch @steve And Twitter was/is the place with the toxic people… πŸ™„

1 May 2023 at 19:56 | Open on det.social
Guillaume Chau :vue:

@chpietsch @steve @Mastodon @Gargron A lot of people really don't "get" Mastodon when they arrive, and just leave never to be seen again. Precisely because they have to chose a server.

1 May 2023 at 22:45 | Open on m.webtoo.ls
Oliver πŸ‘”

@steve This is how your post is displayed on my device right now.
1 May 2023 at 23:46 | Open on die-partei.social
Steve Dinn

@oliver Yeah, some clients are already doing them. But it would be nice if I also got notified that somebody was talking about my post. I mean, you did @ me, but other people that are going to use quote posts might not.

1 May 2023 at 23:53 | Open on social.dinn.ca
Oliver πŸ‘”

@steve And this is why I welcome the move to bring this capability from the frontends to the backend. So that the possibility is not only for 'advanced' users, but immediately available for all. So that quoted users can get a notification about it.
By the way: Would you have received a notification if I had removed your handle in the comment below yours?

1 May 2023 at 23:59 | Open on die-partei.social
Steve Dinn

Let's find out. Did you get notified?

2 May 2023 at 0:00 | Open on social.dinn.ca
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