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Darius Kazemi

"there are no algorithms in our software" is rhetorically isomorphic to "there are no chemicals in our food product"

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The Bean Identity

@darius Mastodon's post ranking algorithm:

- Post shows up
- Post is displayed

Yet it's still an algorithm

[DATA EXPUNGED]
David Slifka

@darius that's a good point! Both are correct based on popular usage but incorrect based on dictionary/technical definitions.

Justinas Dūdėnas

@lritter

water is a chemical compound, sorting by post time is an algorithm.

neither chemistry nor smarter sorting are bad by definition. the question worth asking is how it can bring benefits and to whom. it is a social/political issue, not technical.

i hope to see mastodon frontends with more options to control, filter and sort my timeline, so i could benefit from them. i have no problems with people who don't want that, but i do with those who want to deny this option for others.

@darius

Leonard Ritter

@dudenas @darius yes but

*repeats it slower*

who
says
such
a
thing

Justinas Dūdėnas

@lritter
oh but they do :)
therefore sometimes it is hard to tell irony from honest opinion.. Which, at least in case of algorithms, seems to dominate in my bubble.

Jesse Baer 🔥

@lritter @darius So tempted to do a petty quote toot here - suffice to say, yes, people do. (including the person yesterday who more or less called me an idiot for politely disagreeing with them)

Jesse Baer 🔥

@lritter @darius Just looked that up - nice word. I'm not claiming this view is representative of any group though, just that I've seen it around.

n0body

@darius Ismorphisms are structure preserving and reversible. Isn't this more a quibble about a missing adjective?

DELETED

@darius
"Our products are natural, and the meat is gluten-free!"

Darius Kazemi

@jdrch I simply would have quoted them if I felt like dunking!

jdrch 🇺🇦

@darius Sorry, I thought it was a public statement by a tech exec or something? My bad

Raymond Russell

@darius
See also:

KILLS 99% of all known germs DEAD

Florine

@darius followed for the use of "rhetorically isomorphic" 🤓

Nick Lockwood

@darius one of the most irritating conversations I ever had was with someone who insisted that they were allergic to "all chemicals"

Keith Wilson

@darius @emma Sounds more like “There are no cakes in our fruitcake”. 😊

lyrokain :verified_breze:

@darius I totally agree! But does really someone claim to have software without algorithms?

Darius Kazemi

@lyrokain define "really". I definitely see people saying [insert social media alternative] is better because "there are no algorithms".

lyrokain :verified_breze:

@darius I see. It is only the abridged version of “a chronological timeline as opposed to one that is optimized for drawing attention”. Quite squishy, indeed.

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