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Yogthos

@mrjonno I literally grew up in USSR, but yes do tell me more about what my life there was really like πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ

What the west has accomplished is worse than USSR in every way imaginable.

Nobody is claiming that USSR war perfect, or that we can't do better. However, one has to be deplorably ignorant that USSR wasn't a net positive for the world.

And collapse of USSR was a tragedy for millions of people

academic.oup.com/cje/advance-a

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Yogthos

@mrjonno people constantly denouncing USSR would be a lot more credible if they had any workable alternatives to offer, instead all you do is help perpetuate the capitalist hell the west has imposed on the world.

mrjonno

@yogthos
I've tried to provide you with one.
I get that we have to work together and suggest Marx was a product of his comprehension when we should be working together to do far better in the light of the mistakes we have made and enlightenment that science has provided instead of advocating statism that hasn't worked.
I'll try again. Please watch and add #fossilfuels #pollution etc as a comprehension ignorant of communist ideology...
youtu.be/4ttKueHEUig

Yogthos

@mrjonno you have yet to state what your actual criticism of Marx or his analysis.

If you can't even articulate what you're trying to criticize then it's not reasonable to ask me to watch an hour and a half video from some random group.

mrjonno

@yogthos
I'm really sorry that you would describe @doughnuteconomics #science and #rational as 'random groups' when I am trying to be positive in the light of World destroying itself and our planet.
Fair question to ask for a Marx critique though.

mrjonno

@yogthos
Except it hasn't been. I absolutely get Marx and his concepts of socialism but they are of a time and flawed.
What do you think about #lgbtqia and gulags?
opendemocracy.net/en/odr/gay-l

Yogthos

@mrjonno every human society is flawed, that's the reality.

The claim that Marx is somehow out of time gets repeated often, yet if you actually read Marx then you'll see that his writings are very much relevant to our time and what's happening in the world today.

And I have no idea what gbtqia has to do with communism to be honest.

Yogthos

@mrjonno I must also assume that you're entirely unaware that GDR was a pioneer of many lgbtqia rights?

bostonreview.net/articles/gay-

Yogthos

@mrjonno you were trying to make an argument that human rights violations somehow stem from communism, yet the reality is that communist countries have some of the most progressive laws in the world

mrjonno replied to Yogthos

@yogthos
I'm interested to understand what you think progression is.

Yogthos replied to mrjonno

@mrjonno what Cuba and GDR accomplished, curious why you keep trying to make a nonsensical argument here

mrjonno replied to Yogthos

@yogthos
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mrjonno replied to Yogthos

@yogthos
Thing is. I get where you are coming from. The Russians who had it good to rely on a state to provide just as Americans relied on the 'dream' did/do so in ideological ignorance.
You seem to think #humanrights and #science nonsensical. I assume you dismiss Nikolai Kardashev as a great Russian too?
kardashev.fandom.com/wiki/Kard

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