Gregory's ServerChina, socialism, development and greening: Lessons on what the world can be https://mg.co.za/opinion/2023-02-01-china-socialism-development-and-greening-lessons-on-what-the-world-can-be/
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@yogthos anybody who writes “mistakes have been made” unironically is either an idiot or a comedian setting up for a joke (that’s supposed to follow, unlike here). That being preceded by the most absurd sentence implying that party leadership made sacrifices (as if the sacrifices had any consequences for the party) makes the whole paragraph sound like something even a state propagandist gets fired for. And this is supposedly written for people who’re not pro-China already? @temochka I assume you don't actually know much about the party https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202205/06/WS627479c2a310fd2b29e5af62.html @temochka finally, people in China also enjoy very the kind of social mobility people in countries like US can only dream of https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/11/18/world/asia/china-social-mobility.html Given all that, seems to me that authority in China is held by the working class. @yogthos you’re reading too much into this. My comment is entirely on the language of the article. I think you’ll agree that China is commonly perceived as an authoritarian regime in the West. This article reads like a (bad) piece of authoritarian propaganda. Thus, it fails to convince me, a western reader, to question my beliefs on the subject. I wish it lead with facts, not apologetic veneer. Thanks for the other links, I‘ll review them. @yogthos exactly. Party *members*, not The Party. You’re right about me not knowing much about China, and yet you’re missing my point entirely. The original article is clearly written with someone like me in mind but the writing is so bad, it destroys any credibility of the information presented, despite me being open to the idea of the West learning from China on many subjects. @temochka the party consists of the party members. And top members of the party regularly go to the poorest places in the country, meet with the people, and engage with their problems. There's a reason party approval is incredibly high. And fair enough, the language is ham-fisted by western standards. The west has always had more refined propaganda. I guess that's an area China can do some catching up in. :) |
@yogthos it is hard to take an article that has sentences like these seriously regardless of where one lands on the communism / capitalism spectrum. A press release issued by an authoritarian regime would have more self-awareness than this.