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Yogthos

@rberger I don't see how you get to this automated abundant luxury from where we are without modulating society first. People are a product of their conditions, and the behaviors are selected for by the system people live under.

There is no path towards a post scarcity society under capitalism. This isn't a problem of technology, it's a problem of how we organize society.

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Robert J. Berger

@yogthos Totally agree and that was my attempted point. The thing is we need a way to organize based on sharing abundance and not modulating scarcity. All the isms from the 19th century were about modulating scarcity.

Yogthos

@rberger that's not really true though. Communism isn't about modulating scarcity. It's about directing resources and labour towards public good through public ownership of the means of production.

This is precisely how sharing abundance is achieved in practical terms.

Yogthos

@rberger it's also incorrect to characterize communism as a 19th century ideology as if the idea hasn't been evolving since that time. We have modern socialist countries today that are based on principles of Marxism-Leninism. The philosophy is very much alive today.

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