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Paul Haddad :tapbots_logo:

@tekcor Technically? Absolutely nothing, I have API keys that aren't suspended and have the ability to remotely update them in probably 5-10 minutes.

Practically? I'm not going to play silly games and I don't want to worry about getting sued by someone with an unlimited legal budget.

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Tyler Loch

@paul Stealth update to Tweetbot using the valid API key to make it through app review to build out reading subscriptions for Ivory? Would probably work for the review tester before getting enough attention?

Scott

@paul if the man baby has decided he doesn’t want you in his playpen, it’s easier to just stay out. His reaction when he realised that you circumvented his response would be much worse. And just because he recently lost much of his “value” (wealth) doesn’t mean he’s not got lots more to spend on lawyers

Bodo

@paul so you could add one of those api key for apple reviews of a new build to add the subscription code you had in older versions? And after review change it back to the broken one? That way you could make the subscription transition?

Neal Pozner

@paul
Oh, I think I the limits of his legal budget are going to be explored soon enough. But, fair point.

DELETED

@paul @tekcor I just haven’t used the birdsite since tweetbot stopped working. Guessing all he’s doing is tanking his MAU 🤷‍♂️

Thom McGrath

@UnderpantsGnome @paul I haven’t either. In my opinion, they’ve kicked me off their platform.

Enrico

@UnderpantsGnome @paul @tekcor 💯%, I even uninstalled the official app to make sure I don’t open it by mistake...

Thom McGrath

@illogical_me @UnderpantsGnome @paul Mine is still installed and I keep hitting it out of habit. I keep holding out hope that it’ll start working again, even though I’m pretty confident it won’t.

DELETED

@illogical_me @paul @tekcor same, I moved it off my Home Screen and put Metatext there until I can get @ivory

Radley

@paul @tekcor FWIW, there’s no reason to assume this is permanent and not a bug. Right now it’s still just gossip.

If there’s no official statement, then technically you’re still responsibile to your customers to fix it ASAP. Switch keys, get in the fix, and push to the App Store. Better to get it done and have options, than not get it done and have none.

Thom McGrath

@radley @paul That’s a tough decision to make. While I don’t think Twitter has anything to sue over when using a system they provide, it doesn’t really matter if they weigh TB down in nuisance proceedings that still have to be paid for.

Spencer Callaghan

@radley @paul @tekcor if it were a big there would be some kind of communication. This isn’t on Paul.

Mike Beasley

@spencer @radley @paul @tekcor No, I get what he’s saying. A reasonable person would assume if this was intentional and permanent there would be comms, right?

So without that, there’s no “for sure” way to know it’s intentional. Just hearsay and rumors on blogs, right? So if Paul “doesn’t know” (wink) that it’s permanent and intentional due to lack of comms, it would be reasonable for him to believe it was his issue to fix, and to publish a fix.

Spencer Callaghan

@MikeBeas @radley @paul @tekcor you’re assuming good intentions. Something that Musk has shown no evidence of whatsoever. A small app developer isn’t going to try to find a loophole in the plan of a litigious billionaire man-child

Mike Beasley

@spencer @radley @paul @tekcor no i’m just clarifying that no one here actually thinks this is paul’s problem to fix

joeross.me

@radley @paul @tekcor There’s no comms because… there’s no comms team at Twitter. A bunch of SpaceX or Tesla employees are probably trying to temper what musky really wants to say. More importantly, it’s just rumors on blogs, it’s someone at twitter telling others at twitter who are asking what’s going on that the suspensions are intentional. At best, Twitter is working on inserting adds into API-served timelines and then they’ll reverse the suspensions. More likely this is, as they say, The End

Slade Rice Watkins

@radley @paul @tekcor Yes, but also... that is basically making Tweetbot a target. At this point, because it's guaranteed to hit media, gain attention, Musk could nuke all the keys Paul has, perhaps when it's in App Review.

I think this is end of the road now.

iHuman :kirby:

@paul What if we could enter our own personal API keys instead?

Jerry Gulla

@paul @tekcor Uhhh, have you tried going to developer.twitter.com/apitools now? It’s….gone. Looks as close to official “conformation” that there is no making a working Twitter client any more.

(niko)

@paul @tekcor I mean… as long as they don’t communicate what‘s up you aren‘t breaking any rules 🤷🏼‍♂️

Nick Arnott

@paul @tekcor I know it wouldn’t solve that last concern, but personally I’d love a final update to Tweetbot that lets users pass in arbitrary API keys to play silly games on your behalf.

Thom McGrath

@noir @paul Yeah just get dozens of keys and assign users to them in batches!

It’d be funny, but it’s not worth doing business with somebody that doesn’t want to do business with you. Not that there’s a contract or money exchanging hands, but the concept remains true.

nktn

@paul but API key replacement would say apparently if only major 3rd party twitter apps were suspended intentionally, once this new one will be suspended as well

Gopal Sharma

@paul stupid idea you’ve likely already considered: allow folks to create their own API keys and plug them into Tweetbot?

Slade Rice Watkins

@gp5 @paul I don't foresee Apple allowing this, sadly.

DELETED

@paul @tekcor Alternative idea... Allow individual users to add their own API keys 😉

monorail times

@paul @tekcor some of y’all wanna go back to Twitter too badly, let it go, it’s done

Thom McGrath

@monorailtimes The trouble is audience. The overwhelming majority of the accounts I want to follow are not using Mastodon. It feels like we’re all software developers over here.

Brendan@Tapforms

@tekcor that's actually what I love about Mastodon right now.

fhoo

@tekcor @monorailtimes @paul With the right client Twitter was/is still a nice source of information, if you follow the right accounts :thinkerguns: and unfortunately I‘m still missing some of them here in the fediverse :blobugh:

Eshu Marneedi

@paul @tekcor Let users add their own API keys!

(I’m desperate at this point for Tweetbot, maybe I’m just being stupid)

Joseph Farthing

@EshuMarneedi @paul @tekcor the API key page is down, so nobody can get a key now...

Oliver Michalak

@paul @tekcor not knowing the TOS in all details: could you opening up the api key being entered by the user?

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