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And I really want an official public statement. We have a large number of sub. renewals for year 3 of Tweetbot coming up in a couple of weeks. If we're permanently cut off I need to know so we can remove the app from sale and prevent those. Which obviously I'd rather not do. This really sucks, and the worst part is no notice or explanation at all. It’s just chickenshit behavior. @paul @Green_Footballs Agreed. This kind of behavior is just straight-up unacceptable. @paul I hope for you that you can build a good business here. Whatever happens, I will keep my Tweetbot subscription for now. @paul Even with a public statement, with how crazy the leader over there is, it probably doesn’t have the same meaning a public statement from another company would. How many times has he lied, reversed course, or made false promises about delivery dates? @paul they needed to make a statement yesterday. At this point, you’re not getting a notice until Tuesday at the earliest (due to the 4-day holiday weekend in the States). I went ahead and cancelled my sub just as a precaution, but you and all the other 3rd party client devs deserved way better than this. @paul it's mindbogglingly unprofessional of Twitter. I subscribe to Tweetbot, and I will move over to Ivory the second I can get my hands on it. @paul for what it’s worth, I’m a tweetbot subscriber and will continue to be until y’all kill it. I will also be an Ivory subscriber on day one. Just know you have a lot of folks in your corner who are happy to pay for your premium products. @dharrison @paul that too. And that *also* really hurts since it means nobody got to use the new functionality. But I was thinking more that they released Tweetbot 6 in late January 2021 (around the 29th), and with it being an instant buy for a lot of people, and the subscriptions being annual, that means a higher-than-average bump in revenue at this time of year. I’m sure for Elno it wasn’t intentional to do that to specifically Tweetbot, but it hurts the same. @cdonnellytx @paul Ah, yes. Totally right that renewals are coming up for a lot of us. @paul that is honorable and right but as one data point my renewal went through on the 4th and I’m not mad (at you). @paul I’ve been a happy Tweetbot user since 2012. My renewal is one of those. I’d rather pay for another year and just wait for Ivory to be out than have you all suffer financially because one of cowardly dipshit. @paul Any chance you could offer conversions of subscriptions of one app into something equivalent for another? Added clarification, after seeing some of the responses: Like others, I am not interested in it for myself. My curiosity is/was whether it was is something that Tapbots might be able to offer to unhappy customers that get renewed for what is now a non-functional bit of software. @paul @mark @ivory Maybe add a prominent https://joinmastodon.org link to https://tapbots.com/ivory for anyone unfamiliar. @paul you just know that if there is a statement, it’ll basically be pearl clutching and claiming third party apps are the root of all evil. And he’ll pretend the existence of apps was a recent discovery. @paul I will either renew Tweetbot or subscribe to Ivory if I can until then. @paul That’s weird it’s not all 3rd party apps. Chirp for WatchOS is still working. @paul sorry this happened to you guys. Bought and sub’d to every version of Tweetbot. Plan on doing the same with ivory. @paul for the record, I 100% don’t care if you charge me for it and then have to take it down. I know I’m not the only person you have to think about so you still have to do the work just in case, but I’m happy to support this transition. I’ll pay for Ivory as soon as you let me. @paul despite not using Twitter and the API issues I have every intention of keeping my sub for another year @paul I find it intresting that “sign in with Twitter” on sites still works. Those sites don’t talk to the rest of api I guess. But I did expect that was also broken @paul I love Tweetbot (long time user) and grabbed Ivory yesterday (thanks!). I just sent you a “lunch” tip as a show of support for your past work and for Ivory. Your new app may be the thing that finally moves me to Mastodon full time 😀 @paul Musk doesn’t care. You have to think forward and do what you think is right for your customer base. Hard I know. But being proactive due to no information will garner positive customer support. At minimum send them all a warning statement if that’s possible. @paul Mine is February 6th. I haven’t cancelled yet because I really don’t want to, but it’s looking more and more like this is the end. I’m sorry this has happened to your business, and I’ll be there to support you with Ivory as soon as you let me. Aside from the lack of communication, I find the silence from the public deafening. Very little on Reddit or elsewhere. This doesn’t really matter to most. @paul happy to have it renew and support the team ❤️ at this point you and mark should just make a call to deem Twitter is a dead end instead of stuck in limbo and hope those cowards will give a proper closure… 😅 @paul really sorry to see your livelihood messed with like this. It’s deplorable and unconscionable @paul Also, what is stopping you from getting a new API key? I’m sure they’d shut that one down too, but seeing as they are cherry-picking keys to suspend, they’d have to realize it first. @paul I’ll be honest, I cancelled mine which was due to renew 2nd Feb - but rest assured as soon as Ivory is a fully paid app you’ll have my support. @paul No official word from Elon/Twitter is a bad look and a total dick move. I hate it. Sorry Paul. @paul that won’t come until Tuesday, after making sure there’s no significant uproar and negative news coverage like blocking the jet journalists. |
DF has a good summation of this latest revelation.
https://daringfireball.net/linked/2023/01/14/information-twitter-slack-confirmation
Even without these leaks if you add up the lack of communication, only impacting the top 25-50 Twitter API clients and clients showing up as suspended in the dev. dashboard. The only conclusion at this point is that it was intentional and not any kind of bug.
For the record, still no official or even unofficial communication from anyone within Twitter.