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Genevieve Routhier

@ajroach42 You also assume in your response that it might be the admins who are shitbags, but what happens when it is the mob that is in the wrong?

I'm genuinely curious, don't want to troll. Maybe I'm a cynic, which is possible, but I don't think crowds are smarter either, y'know?

anywho, interested in the conversation if you have the time ^^

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Andrew (bookseller era)

@bl00dberri The mob is often wrong. They were wrong about Hacker's Town, for example. About a quarter of the network defederated, the remaining 3/4s didn't, and everyone continues on with their lives.

For anyone who felt this was untenable, they migrated. (Either from somewhere that had defederated to somewhere that hadn't, or vice versa.)

About 10% of instances block our instance, for example. I block a bunch of other instances. maybe 30% of the network blocks mastodon.social.

It doesn't hurt anyone.

@bl00dberri The mob is often wrong. They were wrong about Hacker's Town, for example. About a quarter of the network defederated, the remaining 3/4s didn't, and everyone continues on with their lives.

For anyone who felt this was untenable, they migrated. (Either from somewhere that had defederated to somewhere that hadn't, or vice versa.)

Genevieve Routhier

@ajroach42 Well this is where I think we disagree. It does hurt communication.

also I know it's a massive blocker for a lot of people I've tried to convince to join the platform. They want to have control over what they censor or not, and not have a "big brother" mod do it for them (I'm exagerating a bit here just for the example).

Hence why I think this'll impede Mastodon's capability to overtake Twitter, even if the algo does "censor" too albeit in an obfuscated way.

Andrew (bookseller era)

@bl00dberri I never said anything about overtaking twitter.

And if they're concerned about that censorship 1) self host an instance, you can do it with one click on a $10 droplet from Digital ocean 2) expect to get blocked by like 3/4 of the network for interacting with the bigots who make up the other 1/4.

Genevieve Routhier

@ajroach42 well "overtaking twitter" was meant mostly as "twitter replacement" considering this is what animates most in this migration.

anyway, this isn't about being a power user either, especially if that's the one way to not have to bother with content blocking. Unfortunately most people just want something that works and doesn't have to be managed otherwise.

I don't have all the answers, hence why I'm just chatting about it, but there seems to be missing a middle ground somewhere is all.

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