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Genevieve Routhier

@ajroach42 I don't misunderstand, I just am currently witnessing partial defederalization of the instance I'm on because someone created an account 3 years ago and hasn't used it, and is apparently a biggot. And the mod won't ban the account and other instances gamedev instances are cutting ties because of that, thus penalizing thousands.

I don't even want to brush on the issue with the guy, but I don't see how this is a measured response or a welcome behaviour.

19 Nov 2022 at 14:29 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
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Genevieve Routhier

@ajroach42 I am also not against defederalized networks on principle. But human drama is never far and I don't see how this kind of chaos is healthy (the one described above anyway).

19 Nov 2022 at 14:31 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
Andrew (bookseller era)

@bl00dberri I'm always going to be on the side of protecting my local users over maintaining access to the rest of the network.

Migrating between instances is easy.

Defederating from instances that won't moderate their platform is how we, as a community, protect ourselves.

And we won't always agree, and so the network fragments. IMO, that's better than the alternative.

19 Nov 2022 at 14:59 | Open on retro.social
Genevieve Routhier

@ajroach42 But this is a super extreme case don't you think?

and also, this is not the case of one instance being troublesome, in which case yeah sure just cut off ties. People could just block that account preemptively.

If the account was active then 100% he would have been ejected. But who's to know what kind of content someone might post when the account isn't even used? Do you pre-ban people "just in case"? Is that ethical? How far will you go to protect your users?

19 Nov 2022 at 15:03 | Open on mastodon.gamedev.place
Andrew (bookseller era)

@bl00dberri I don't know the details of this case, so I won't comment on it.

I will say that when a notorious bigot made an account on mastodonapp.uk, I notified them that the person in question was a notorious bigot, and suspended the instance 24 hours later.

They said, essentially "this person hasn't violated our rules yet" which is kind of like saying "That white supremacist hasn't attacked anyone in front of me"

When someone shows you who they are, you have to believe them. If an instance is willing to accept a known bigot, because they haven't done anything bigoted "on this platform yet" that's just providing cover.

Again, I don't know the details of this instance, maybe folks are blowing it out of proportion, but it sounds like an instance admin choosing to protect an unused account from a known abuser, rather than proactively take a stance against bigotry.

@bl00dberri I don't know the details of this case, so I won't comment on it.

I will say that when a notorious bigot made an account on mastodonapp.uk, I notified them that the person in question was a notorious bigot, and suspended the instance 24 hours later.

They said, essentially "this person hasn't violated our rules yet" which is kind of like saying "That white supremacist hasn't attacked anyone in front of me"

19 Nov 2022 at 15:15 | Open on retro.social
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