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Doc Edward Morbius ⭕​

@ajroach42 Whilst I strongly sympathise, there's a lot of daylight between "being seen as" and "is credibly".

Twitter was one of the smaller social networks, and yet boasts 166 million DAU (financesonline.com/number-of-t) (daily active users).

Mastodon ... might be breaking 1 million monthly actives (techcrunch.com/2022/11/07/boos).

We can argue about the merits and worth of scaling. But the point is that Mastodon has as yet not scaled.

(I'm writing from an instance whose notifications are lagged by about 5--6 hours and have been all day. The (volunteer) admin is aware, but also overloaded with other tasks.)

19 Nov 2022 at 2:28 | Wall-to-wall | Open on toot.cat
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Andrew (bookseller era)

@dredmorbius Hey! I don't know what to take away from this.

It kinda feels like "yeah, it's great that this exists, too bad it's not even better"

I want to engage with it reasonably, but I can't figure out how.

As for the lag, we probably hit 2.8-3M MAUs today, and I've watched big commercial services choke under 3x growth. We're mostly still up, and mostly catching up. I think that's remarkable.

We haven't "replaced" twitter, and we won't "replace" twitter, but we are actively providing an alternative to ~2 million people.

@dredmorbius Hey! I don't know what to take away from this.

It kinda feels like "yeah, it's great that this exists, too bad it's not even better"

I want to engage with it reasonably, but I can't figure out how.

As for the lag, we probably hit 2.8-3M MAUs today, and I've watched big commercial services choke under 3x growth. We're mostly still up, and mostly catching up. I think that's remarkable.

19 Nov 2022 at 3:00 | Open on retro.social
Doc Edward Morbius ⭕​

@ajroach42 Mostly I'm cautioning against too much enthusiasm or overly high expectation from Mastodon.

Twitter's scale is at least two orders of magnitude greater than Mastodon's.

Mastodon's done quite well, so far. That doesn' tmean it won't show growing pains. And it's had pains in the past (WilW episode, August 2018, comes to mind).

Also, that lag's still affecting me here, I happened to catch your reply on-thread, it's still not made my notifs after 2 hours (though I'm seeing more activity). I may not necessarily be ignoring you or others.

I'd like Mastodon to succeed. I've never been a significant Twitter user (there may have been some test accounts, those are all probably at least a decade dormant).

@ajroach42 Mostly I'm cautioning against too much enthusiasm or overly high expectation from Mastodon.

Twitter's scale is at least two orders of magnitude greater than Mastodon's.

Mastodon's done quite well, so far. That doesn' tmean it won't show growing pains. And it's had pains in the past (WilW episode, August 2018, comes to mind).

19 Nov 2022 at 5:28 | Open on toot.cat
Andrew (bookseller era)

@dredmorbius Oh yeah, growing pains abound.

I tend to make my enthusiasm public, and keep my pessimism private.

I find it rarely does any good to try and arrest the momentum, but hyping it might push it past "where do I go now that twitter is dying" and towards "Oh, I also believe in that vision" for a subset of people.

19 Nov 2022 at 13:49 | Open on retro.social
Sami Sundell
@ajroach42 @dredmorbius Yep. The current influx is still in its early days, and I'd guess most people haven't really found their way around here; the "public interface" is focused on a small set of generalist instances, and, for the moment, that also allows people to use them as if they were still in Twitter.

However, I also see people staying in their original instance and then moving, trying to find a better fit for themselves. The influx will probably dwindle, and my guess is even most of the people will move to something else entirely, but for some, probably not insignificant number of people this place will feel like home.
@ajroach42 @dredmorbius Yep. The current influx is still in its early days, and I'd guess most people haven't really found their way around here; the "public interface" is focused on a small set of generalist instances, and, for the moment, that also allows people to use them as if they were still in Twitter.
19 Nov 2022 at 14:07 | Open on taakka.fillari.xyz
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