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Andrew (bookseller era)

Here's your irregular reminder that:

Twitter was a multi-billion dollar company with thousands of employees.

Mastodon is a niche hobbyist product run by volunteers

The fact that we're being seen as a viable alternative to them is an admission that a federated, decentralized future is not only possible, but desirable.

Mastodon is not one thing, or one place. It's a network of many things and many places. We don't have a spokesperson (I mean, there's me. I'm the official spokesperson for 💯 of the fediverse, but beyond me there is no spokesperson) we don't have consensus on moderation or blocking or tools or what is good and what is bad. Some of us are professional SREs and Sysadmins, some of us aren't. Some of our instances have been around for 5+ years, some won't be here in six months.

And that's good! All of it, every last bit of it is good.

We're wrestling power away from the billionaire class, in real time, and reclaiming it for the People.

522 comments
Z O R A N G R B I C

@ajroach42
Depends who "them" is?

I don't think that e. g. a Volkswagen cares about the decentralized approach.

They'll embrace it fully if a Cie, like Red Hat did with Linux, comes around and puts a commercial glazing around it. A bit like what Jack with his Bluesky is trying to do. 😉

These users are opportunists. And then there're others who do see an opportunity.

We'll see. It's exciting, anyway you look at it. We're witnessing a piece of history being written.

@ajroach42
Depends who "them" is?

I don't think that e. g. a Volkswagen cares about the decentralized approach.

They'll embrace it fully if a Cie, like Red Hat did with Linux, comes around and puts a commercial glazing around it. A bit like what Jack with his Bluesky is trying to do. 😉

These users are opportunists. And then there're others who do see an opportunity.

Jeff

@ajroach42 Using words like "fediverse" and "SREs" isn't going to help make Mastodon more friendly to most people.

Kyrabe Stories

@ajroach42 I also just started using this platform a few days ago. Now I'm noticing articles about Mastodon more often in my other news feed. 😅

Andrew (bookseller era)

@KyrabeStories It's been like that, slowly but steadily, for the last six years. Every quarter, the press increases.

How do you like it so far?

Ned Hairston

@ajroach42 This is truth! The future is FOSS. And I'd totally vote for you as spokesperson. ✌️

@Alimor999 🇺🇲 🇺🇦☮️🕊️

@ajroach42 so what happens if we picked a server that goes away? Do you have to start all over again?

Aaron Abernethy

@ajroach42 I’d argue that the vast majority of new users don’t understand what ‘federated’ and ‘decentralised’ mean in this context, and nor should they have to. They just wanted somewhere else to go and hopefully bring their friends with them.

Andrew (bookseller era)

@theronster I don't disagree!

Part of the reason I made this post is to plant the seed that this hobbiest network that might be the place where they can be with their friends was started for strong ideological reasons.

It won't matter for most people, but for some it will change how they approach things, or change how they think about things, and that can be powerful.

Becky Endicott, CFRE, APR

@ajroach42 Thank you for ending our quest to find authentic community, safe digital dens and democratic free thinkers who believe in equity (and have a soul. This should be the future of social community. Let’s ensure it is and share our content here. I believe. Well done Mastodon👏

Andrew (bookseller era)

@mikemcgyver Looks like you pressed reply, but didn't type anything?

Or am I getting federation weirdness?

Capybro
One caveat: I think it's important to bear in mind that what's exciting about these projects to tech nerds is not exciting to the average person who's fleeing Twitter. In fact, I've watched many an eye glaze over when someone (occasionally myself) starts expounding on the benefits of federation. I've also been seeing tons of memes going around about how confusing and alienating it is, some of which are pretty funny and not without a kernel of truth.

The average user doesn't want to think about what's going on under the hood. He certainly doesn't want to sit through a TED Talk before he can start engaging with a product that should already feel familiar. The big companies know this, and that's why when they market to mainstream audience, they don't prattle on about their cutting edge server infrastructure or the custom MVVM framework they're using: they focus on how it will connect them with people and enrich their lives.

I'm not saying federation isn't awesome or that we shouldn't be excited about it or share that excitement. But if the goal is to seize this opportunity to drive adoption, it's important that we tailor the message to the audience. Once they've been here for a while, they'll inevitably be exposed to some of the underlying structure, and since they'll have some personal investment at that point, maybe they'll even find it interesting. But in the meantime, too much technical jargon is likely to send people running in the other direction.
One caveat: I think it's important to bear in mind that what's exciting about these projects to tech nerds is not exciting to the average person who's fleeing Twitter. In fact, I've watched many an eye glaze over when someone (occasionally myself) starts expounding on the benefits of federation. I've also been seeing tons of memes going around about how confusing and alienating it is, some of which are pretty funny and not without a kernel of truth.
Andrew (bookseller era)

@NikkiRG Hi! Looks like you responded to this post with no content? Or possible that m.s is having trouble.

Steve RS

@ajroach42 so it’s like … human rights free speech absolutism actually

Andrew (bookseller era)

@javavoretext I don't understand what you mean.

The fediverse is a network of people who choose to talk to one another.

There is very rarely anything approaching free-speech absolutism here, because free speech absolutism tends to imply free access to audience, or to exclude speech like "I'd rather not hear this"

Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point, you didn't use very many words.

Cathie Lloyd

@ajroach42 just think if people like Musk we’re running the country into the ground like he’s doing Twitter. Wait now…

Mia Knox🏳️‍🌈❄️👑

@ajroach42 kudos to every single one on the Fediverse hosting a instance. May be bold claim but for me it is a digital live Hero collective.

Eva

@ajroach42 thank you for doing this for all of us, for us to be connected.

Heide Estes

@ajroach42 However. Twitter was a “place” where various marginalized groups found community — Black, disabled, trans, and others. Mastodon, precisely because it is structured differently, can not recreate that. “Even if you could somehow magically get all of disability Twitter to move to the same alternative social media platform, we would be siloed in a way where the rest of the world wouldn’t have to see us anymore,” Tait says. time.com/6230469/disability-us “Black folks used Twitter to circumvent mainstream channels and get their voices heard, creating hashtags like #OscarsSoWhite and powering generation-defining protest movements around racial justice, gender, and sexual equality.” wired.com/story/black-twitter-

@ajroach42 However. Twitter was a “place” where various marginalized groups found community — Black, disabled, trans, and others. Mastodon, precisely because it is structured differently, can not recreate that. “Even if you could somehow magically get all of disability Twitter to move to the same alternative social media platform, we would be siloed in a way where the rest of the world wouldn’t have to see us anymore,” Tait says. time.com/6230469/disability-us “Black...

JinxMeister

@hestes @ajroach42 hi. I’m new to mastodon so I might be wrong as I’ve not yet figured it fully out. My understanding is if a post/idea is interesting, it will be boosted many times gaining momentum and attention and will flow across instances. I had a Twitter account for 12 years and barely posted it. I’ve had more conversations here in two days than I had in 12 years. I am hoping this will have the same opportunities without the toxic abuse

Damian Cugley

@hestes @ajroach42 Let’s hope (& help, when we can) that the Fediverse will evolve solutions to this sort of community-building and outreach as more people join. Twitter didn’t start out that way & a lot of what made it good came from its users, not from the technology as such

Andrew (bookseller era)

@hestes I'm not sure what point your making, other than that centralized platforms can help with some kinds of discovery.

This is true! Some things are much easier on centralized platforms. Discovery, spying, censorship, running it all in the ground by firing everyone involved over a period of 3 weeks.

We won't replace twitter, we're something different. The ways that twitter was used to amplify marginalized voices might not work as well here, it remains to be seen.

But we're a collection of people, and we can make the choice to amplify those things we find important.

So, again, I'm not sure what point you're making here. Could you explain what you mean?

@hestes I'm not sure what point your making, other than that centralized platforms can help with some kinds of discovery.

This is true! Some things are much easier on centralized platforms. Discovery, spying, censorship, running it all in the ground by firing everyone involved over a period of 3 weeks.

VHG

@ajroach42 good decentralization- mastodon. Bad decentralization- crypto currency. Hard to get without all the details and without @molly0xfff

Andrew (bookseller era)

@vgoller @molly0xfff My rule of thumb is that if there's a blockchain involved, I won't touch it.

noelle_nole@mastodon.ie

@ajroach42 Hello Andrew! I'm at the bottom of a Mastodon learning curve, but so glad to have found a haven from one man's destructive vanity.

twohitgood

Just be humble. You're just providing the platform but every user here is enabling it. It's about them first. After all, a social media needs social ties. That requires people and accommodating them. I'm appreciative of it. But just don't forget: it's the people first and foremost and you don't dictate to them.

Bluebell

@ajroach42 😻😻 power to the people...and cats...

Jeffrey Banks

@ajroach42 what does “federated” mean, in the sense you’re using it here?

Andrew (bookseller era)

@jeffreybanks Lots of small things connected in to a bigger thing.

In this case, you're on mastodon.world and I'm on retro.social, but we can still communicate.

Jeffrey Banks

@ajroach42 thanks! Makes plenty of sense - it will be fun finding out.

Genevieve Routhier

@ajroach42 I'm not convinced that Mastodon's success is due to its decentralization. Quite the opposite actually.

It might become the biggest friction factor in the coming weeks as drama will inevitably come and various instances will defederalize over anger/upset etc.

Otherwise, I quite enjoy the place.

Andrew (bookseller era)

@bl00dberri

I think that, perhaps, you have fundamentally misunderstood the place in which you are participating.

Defederating from instances with which you have issues is not only common practice, but also good. Lots of right wing shitbags have run mastodon instances in the past, some still do, we're separated from them.

The decentralized nature of the network is the biggest hurdle to onboarding and adoption, but it's also the only reason the place can continue to exist at all. It would be too expensive to run, and too difficult to moderate, and too full of petty drama if it was all one thing.

I'm glad your enjoying the space, I hope you stick with it for a while, I think you'll find that the union makes us strong in ways that centralization cannot.

@bl00dberri

I think that, perhaps, you have fundamentally misunderstood the place in which you are participating.

Defederating from instances with which you have issues is not only common practice, but also good. Lots of right wing shitbags have run mastodon instances in the past, some still do, we're separated from them.

Genevieve Routhier

@ajroach42 I don't misunderstand, I just am currently witnessing partial defederalization of the instance I'm on because someone created an account 3 years ago and hasn't used it, and is apparently a biggot. And the mod won't ban the account and other instances gamedev instances are cutting ties because of that, thus penalizing thousands.

I don't even want to brush on the issue with the guy, but I don't see how this is a measured response or a welcome behaviour.

Genevieve Routhier

@ajroach42 I am also not against defederalized networks on principle. But human drama is never far and I don't see how this kind of chaos is healthy (the one described above anyway).

Genevieve Routhier

@ajroach42 You also assume in your response that it might be the admins who are shitbags, but what happens when it is the mob that is in the wrong?

I'm genuinely curious, don't want to troll. Maybe I'm a cynic, which is possible, but I don't think crowds are smarter either, y'know?

anywho, interested in the conversation if you have the time ^^

Dave 🇺🇸🇺🇦

@ajroach42 Hey, Andrew. You brought something up that I've been wondering about: What happens when an instance goes away? Do I have to create a new account and start over? Is there a backup system and a means to restore data? Thanks.

Andrew (bookseller era)

@heydaave You can export your followers/following at any time through the settings, and import them in to another account.

You can also Migrate between instances, as long as they are both online.

Migration is preferable to importing a backup, but I take a backup ~ once a month as a precaution.

Andrew (bookseller era)

@anzhr Hey!! Looks like you replied to me with an empty post. Maybe you were trying to boost (the two arrows that form a square)

TifaDaisyDewdrop

@ajroach42 Thank you to all of you - you must be feeling overwhelmed right now by the stampede! One thing, this is an old account I set up in April. Thinking it had 'died' when I left back then, I find its still open and am using it. However, not realising, I registered again and never got a confirmation email - though a message appeared saying my acct was fully functional. So If the attempt to register has produced a new 'account' it can be deleted and I'll use this one.

Andrew (bookseller era)

@TifaDaisyDewdrop Looks like that was all on mastodon.social, which I don't operate (I run a much smaller instance) but if you used the same email address, it will not have created a second account.

Alasdair Allan

@ajroach42 To be fair, at last count, and at least according to posts on Blind, #Twitter now has 238 employees left.

Andrew (bookseller era)

@aallan And it's still probably worth a few million.

But it ain't tens of billions and 8,000 anymore.

Oliver Romain 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇪🇺 ☮️

@ajroach42 Exactly this 👆the fediverse is political. It’s not just an alternative to billionaire controlled social media platforms, it is a complete rejection of them. Everyone who comes here, especially those wonderful folk who delete their bird accounts, are making a political and ethical choice. It feels good it feels right and it’s the future.

mathew 🦜☕

@oliverromain @ajroach42 It's sad to see people leaving Twitter to use other corporate walled gardens like Instagram and Tumblr, having learned nothing from the last few months.

Brad

@ajroach42 many like myself didn't even realize this was a thing. There's no way musk meant to create a mass exodus, but in a twist it seems to be toward a better future for social media.

ngmi

@elliottucker well there are common server blocklists, that seemed to be followed by some of the biggest hubs.
IMO that's fine, and not an argument against decentralization, but "no blocking" shouldn't be advertised as a feature, it is not one.

Dentista Vermelho

@ajroach42
I've been here for a week. Its a breath of fresh air.
I was really tired of the twitter's toxicity, that makes me anxious.
Im in a small server here in Brazil, helping ADM with the server, feeling like Im part of it.
My interactions are real, feeling like Im in a pub talking
Cant imagine myself going back to a social media ruled by only one lunatic billionaire. Aftet onde week here I cant see twitter like a "comunity" anymore. (Did my best here with my mediocre english lol)

Dentista Vermelho

@ajroach42
Thank you, and everybody behind this great adventure!

Mastermoobs

@Heliosalles

Your English is great. And...I feel the same way

Dentista Vermelho

@mastermoobs
Thank you! Im interacting with other servers outside Brazil, to practice!

Mastermoobs

@Heliosalles

I've tried to learn a little Spanish in years gone by, but I'm too old now to retain it. Good on you for learning....

Wherearemykeys

@mastermoobs @Heliosalles Agree about your english. I just thought you were a native speaker

Dentista Vermelho

@Wherearemykeys
Thanks! Interacting with everybody here is helping a lot!
@mastermoobs

AreWeThereYet

@Heliosalles @ajroach42 woohoo! I've been here for years now and I can say it only gets better with time. P.S. don't worry about your English, it will get better, too. It's already decent. Better than mine for sure!

Dentista Vermelho

@xpil
It is really getting better! Egeryday I discover new things about mastodon! Feeling home already!
@ajroach42

Mafeesh :verified:

@Heliosalles @ajroach42
Superb English. Better than my Spanish.
Let's use Arabic 😜

Dentista Vermelho

@mafeesh
Im good at portuguese (my native language) and I at least able to express myself in english and spanish. A lot of neighbour countries here in south america are spanish speakes!
@ajroach42

Mafeesh :verified:

@Heliosalles My humble apologies, I used to speak some Portuguese but a glance at your profile made me choose Spanish. Very insulting of me.

Dentista Vermelho

@mafeesh Dont worry! Actually Im also trying to practice spanish here!
Cheers!

Daugther of Themiscyra

@Heliosalles @mafeesh I know a bit of Spanish too! I just to speak it very often because I’m also fluent in Italian and make lots of confusion! 😂😂😂

Daugther of Themiscyra

@Heliosalles @ajroach42 your English is great. Hello from a fellow Brazilian-Italian lady lost in the Alps.

Dentista Vermelho

@DThemiscyra
Alps! There is a place I want to see! Looks so beautiful!
@ajroach42

Daugther of Themiscyra

@Heliosalles @ajroach42 It’s beautiful indeed I feel lucky and blessed to be able to see such wonderful landscapes we have around here.

Glen Robinson 🇪🇺

@ajroach42 Great to feel welcome in this wonderful Community. Looking forward to learning how to add value. 🙏

Calm, considering

@ajroach42 what infuriates me most about the behaviour of Musk is that he really does not care a jot about his employees. Whether they're being randomly sacked, or worked to death, so long as the share price keeps climbing.
I don't want to live in a world where 99.9% of the population is little more than collateral for the rest.

Shaz K.

@ajroach42 Mastodon is the social media networking multiverse.

Holeintheheadesign

@ajroach42 dumb newbie ? Can’t figure out how to place a masthead image🥴

Andrew (bookseller era)

@holeinthehead2 Hey man! Sorry you're having trouble. I've been here 6 years, happy to help.

The official docs are pretty good docs.joinmastodon.org/user/pro

If you still can't figure it out, let me know! I'll shoot you a few screenshots.

luisafernino

@ajroach42 I left twitter a while ago but was unaware of the existence of the fediverse. i'm so hopeful for the future of the internet for the first time in a while. I'm gen x so I was lucky to know the earliest versions of the internet where people exchanges tons of ideas, conversations, discoveries etc. Before it became a giant mall. hopefully we can get some of it revived here! :ablobderpy:

Birdblahblah

@luisafernino @ajroach42 the Internet is a giant mall. Excellent funny analogy! Aside, I don’t understand anything how this works so it’s exactly like the first internet I used in the 90’s. This will take me about 12 years to understand 🥴

DanaBlankenhorn

@ajroach42 Can I offer a short version?
Twitter is AOL
Mastodon is the Internet.

Andrew (bookseller era)

@DanaBlankenhorn Perhaps, but I think it's more and different than that.

Twitter is to Mastodon like AOL in 1998 was to Fidonet + synchronet circa 1990

Will Burns 🍥

@ajroach42 I wonder if Mastodon would benefit from a BlocksNet implement to ensure data is stored everywhere decentralized as 1:! and not dependent on community servers entirely?

Just thinking out loud before coffee ...

Strypey

@ajroach42
> Mastodon is not one thing, or one place. It's a network of many things and many places.

Many of them not even Mastodon at all. Let's fediverse.party! ;)

Bill St. Clair
@strypey @ajroach42 If only. Twitter IS a huge, multi-billion dollar company. The handful of Twitter users who are now trying the Fediverse THINK it’s going away. I’ll wait and see, but I doubt it. It still has HUGE reach, and the software is top-notch. If you want to talk with your friends, the Fediverse rocks. If you want to reach millions, Twitter beats it hands down.
wellactually

@ajroach42 -it feels very ‘Silicon Valley’ and one day we’ll just accept the decentralizing is key when someone flips the off switch on the centralized hub. I still think there is a role for aggregators though. I would love an app that could take all the different channels I’m on and display them for me in a single place with a decent interface (imagine your Twitter feed, FB feed, Reddit, Mastadon, Instagram, etc., all in one place, associated to all the right accounts).

Ms. Liberty1978

@ajroach42 Hi, I'm from Twitter &hoping everyone else joins us here.

Kate

@ajroach42 @neilhimself Mastodon reminds me of the days when I spent hours entering ASCII to make a pretty BBS on an old 8086 that connected to others over landline with a 300 baud modem. That is not a critique. It is a love letter. Those days, we used computers to connect humans — not to market them or to them. It was about sharing information and authentic conversations. I can hear the soul of the internet again here and it is beautiful.

LeavingATX

@ajroach42 Thanks. This sounds like the place I want to be.

BerlinBob

@ajroach42 I think it's more like they are throwing their power away through incompetence...

APSWStateofMind

@ajroach42
...and I thank you for it.❤️​🇨🇦​

Philip Ives 🖖

@ajroach42 With effort this Mastodon will show its' true appeal and demonstrate why independence is so important.

carrielamarr

@ajroach42 this ⬇️ 💯

“The fact that we're being seen as a viable alternative to them is an admission that a federated, decentralized future is not only possible, but desirable.”

Massive thanks, too, because to be hosting a place that suddenly thousands show up & crashed the party must be bloody exhausting as well.

Appreciate you

Ruth・ルス

@ajroach42 A spectre is haunting the net, the spectre of decentralized social interaction! Netizens of the world unite, we have nothing to lose but being manipulated by undeclared foreign agents for a combination of monetary and political gains!

rimbo

@ajroach42 You're about to learn the same lesson we all learned in September of 1993.

Bryan

@ajroach42 What happens if my instance goes down permanently without notice? Do my toots disappear forever?

David Palk #FBPE #RejoinEU

@ajroach42 Working the work in my own small way thanks to the fediverse. Way to go peeps!

snowjag

@ajroach42 Just hoping I can figure out a new platform before I start smelling the burn on fried brain cells.

KayVay

@ajroach42 And to that I’d like to add..
If you are irritated by some of the issues because of the overwhelming traffic #Mastodon gets now, make your own social media site. If you’re good at this sort of thing go for it! Anyone can complain 🤷‍♀️. Better yet, be patient, go read a book (you know those things with pages you manually turn), make some cookies for your husband/wife, play a game with your kids, go for a walk (fresh air is good for the soul), do yoga etc., you get the idea.

Configa

@ajroach42 Well said!! The future is NOW!!! 👏👏👏💯💯💯

Debb Massey

@ajroach42 I’m impressed, very well done to you all

Max Mulvihill :vhs:

@ajroach42 I hadn't even heard of the fediverse until yesterday but I really like the idea of it already.

Mastodon is something that I believe needs to exist, along with other fediverse services that I hope will gain more traction.

👩‍🦯The Blind Fraggle

@ajroach42 If Twitter disappears, hypothetically, I have no place to go. If my Mastodon instance disappears I might be a bit disappointed, but I'll just join another instance that interests me, (I'm sure there are at least a few), and carry on, probably without losing any of the friends I've made here.

LJ Burton

@ajroach42 I’m still so very confused on how to find people

CatsSimsBooks

@ajroach42 And it says a lot about Facebook/Meta that noone brings it up as a viable alternative.

Gordon J Holtslander

@ajroach42 As a Canadian facing one of the highest costing internet and mobile costs I’d like to see the “ federated model of communication” support smaller interconnected services compete with Canada’s big internet & mobile providers #CanadaInternet #CanadaMobile #CanadaPolitics

Karen Strickholm

@ajroach42 Now here is a declaration I can get behind. Thank you!

Catherine Brown

@ajroach42 love this - and it is why I am excited to be here and keep telling everyone else to come and join us! Thank you to everyone who makes it possible and to the person who shared the link to enable me to make a small regular financial contribution. Hoorah. It is inspiring me to consider alternatives to Instagram which is hooching with advertising these days…

Mieke Roth

@ajroach42 @FlyingTrilobite this is why I am on mastodon. And I do hope people stop trying to superimpose their twitter-view of the world onto mastodon and start seeing it like it is: a possibility to build something great that suits you and the people you want to be with.

Cher Tailor

@ajroach42 I'm just here to make posts that people reply to.

Égide

@ajroach42
[Translate into french by a hobbyist traitor]
Voici notre rappel, de temps à autre, que :

Twitter est une entreprise milliardaire avec des milliers d'employés.

Mastodon est un produit de niche pour amateurs, géré par des bénévoles.

Le fait que nous soyons considérés comme une alternative viable à ceux-là, c'est admettre qu'un futur fédéré et décentralisé n'est pas seulement possible, mais souhaitable et désiré.
Mastodon n'est pas une chose monolithique, ni un unique lieu.

MoiraEve

@ajroach42 well, maybe. Just remember your Animal Farm.

MaryMarasKittenBakery

@ajroach42
Cheers! I can't thank all of you enough and I admire how y'all handled the huge challenge of massive user influx these last weeks. Amazing community 💕💝

pete nuwayser

@ajroach42 reminds me of The Cathedral and the Bazaar by Eric S. Raymond #whatsoldiswhatsnewagain #linux #opensource #1997

DELETED

@ajroach42 What's not to love about that! Go you ... and mastodon 😍.

Lobster

@ajroach42 Good on ya! I am just a perpetual nooby, my kindest regards to the :fedi: :hearthands: :ablobwave: :mastodon: sooner or later we will comprehend the benefits and eternal freedoms of the #Fediverse Cod Bless Us #Everyone

Vibeke Bertelsen (Udart)

@ajroach42 I am one of the new ones. The more time I spend here the more I like it

Jeff Shaffer CBET, ret

@ajroach42 kind of like Star Wars? The Empire with space Karen playing the role of Darth Vader and Mastodon is the rebellion?

Lord Graham Kirk 💙

@ajroach42

Nice!

Mastodon reminds me of a song I know from many years ago & the desire/hope that freedom & equality would previal.

"I'm not saying that the battle is won
But on Saturday night all those kids in the sun
Wrested technology's sword from the hand of the
War Lords"

The tide is turning - Roger Waters.
youtube.com/watch?v=td6CD3J9ki

The Iron Charioteer

So where’s the general, everyone-sees-it feed so a guy with ADHD, for instance, isn’t forced to manually search out and follow *every single person* that *might* say something you’d like to hear…? (Or wind up with a feed that only has a Mast on it a couple times a day, of course. My feed has Neil Gaiman. Not much else - besides you, of course. 🤷‍♂️

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