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Harp :wigglytuff:

@Rasp @lapis ofc I say that but from what I remember of my mom's complaints from her career doing digital typesetting and graphic design while I was growing up, as well as things like the printer being finicky at a high school summer job... This isn't really a new problem. Part of it is just endemic problems to the format. You need a lot of small gears and such, plus either high heat or ink that is going through very small nozzles that are easy to clog, etc etc. Same sort of pattern has happened to sewing machines, really. Plastic as a material has its limits, and other materials are often much more expensive, plus the designs need to do more and more mechanically as more features are added. Affordable, solid construction that is not meant to fail or wear out, or fully featured: pick any two, because all three is impossible.

Given the problems I also remember my mother having with things like "the urgent update for the driver is released for Macintosh first and windows will get it in a few weeks", back when Macs were absolutely preferred for graphics design work... Well, it's likely been even worse for Linux historically.

That's why it's become an established cultural joke of how printers will give up on you at the most inconvenient time possible and are generally ornery bastards. Only gets worse when the printer isn't just a printer but also a copier, fax, etc... Roll the relevant movie clip lol youtu.be/_KinUMIS3Yc

Basically, I congratulate you on your extraordinarily good luck, but do not doubt that things like the comic lapis posted arise from genuine problems that other people have even if you might not lol

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💜 Dr. Blight ❤️

@wigglytuffitout @lapis

Like its also not an inkjet printer is a laser printer and most of the parts that are likely to wear out quickly are built into the massive toner cartridges by design specifically to avoid the kind of problems you get with an inkjet printer.

Harp :wigglytuff:

@Rasp @lapis are you wanting to have a conversation, or are you wanting to just hear how you are clearly so correct everyone else's experience and knowledge mean nothing?

Alternatively, if you are replacing all parts affected by wear and tear (and planned obsolescence), I can tell you why your printers are working so well: that's not a new toner cartridge, it's a whole printer. So every single gear within gets replaced. Because yes, I am aware of how printers work. Toner does not absolve the need for things like feeding paper through.

@Rasp @lapis are you wanting to have a conversation, or are you wanting to just hear how you are clearly so correct everyone else's experience and knowledge mean nothing?

Alternatively, if you are replacing all parts affected by wear and tear (and planned obsolescence), I can tell you why your printers are working so well: that's not a new toner cartridge, it's a whole printer. So every single gear within gets replaced. Because yes, I am aware of how printers work. Toner does not absolve the need...

Harp :wigglytuff: replied to Harp

@Rasp @lapis Really, though, this is honestly just you being a bore to a near-terminal degree.

Do you always try to disprove someone telling a joke? Do you think common complaints are unworthy of discussion because they have not personally happened to you?

What's next, someone complains about all the Thanksgiving meal leftovers they have to eat while sharing a funny meme about all the ways to repackage turkey into other meals, and you're going to leap in to explain to everyone that they're wrong because that has never happened to you (because you prefer ham and do that instead of a turkey)? If someone jokes about the rough traffic on their commute, do you crash in to declare NO THAT DOESNT HAPPEN AND I KNOW THIS BECAUSE MY COMMUTE IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PLACE ENTIRELY WAS FINE AND ALSO I WORK FROM HOME SO MY COMMUTE WAS FROM BED TO COUCH THEREFORE YOU ARE LYING ABOUT TRAFFIC BEING AN ISSUE?

Some people are not you. Please, I beg of you, do not decide to be a twit of the highest order and make it everyone else's problem when they are not you.

Or else the next time I post about my shoulder hurting due to my disability, I will expect you to come along to say 'well akshuallyyyyyy my shoulder doesn't hurt therefore yours does not so stfu and no making jokes, how dare you not be me, you're clearly invalid if you're not meeeee because the only one that matters is meeeeeeeeee and anyone trying to live their own life needs to be REMINDED that I AM THE MAIN CHARACTER AND ONLY ONE THAT CAN SPEAK'

Or at least, if you do that, just post this handy shorthand: "I am a complete fuckhead. Please block me."

Seriously. This thing that you're doing? It's not cute. It's not cool. I will paypal you money to buy a ladder and get over yourself if it will help you to not needle people for the grave sin of posting jokes for an audience other than you when they don't know you from Adam and are posting on their personal social media.

If you find this impossible then I invite you to wank off into the sunset.

@Rasp @lapis Really, though, this is honestly just you being a bore to a near-terminal degree.

Do you always try to disprove someone telling a joke? Do you think common complaints are unworthy of discussion because they have not personally happened to you?

What's next, someone complains about all the Thanksgiving meal leftovers they have to eat while sharing a funny meme about all the ways to repackage turkey into other meals, and you're going to leap in to explain to everyone that they're wrong...

💜 Dr. Blight ❤️ replied to Harp

@wigglytuffitout @lapis Not all parts prone to failures are "planned obsolescence" delicate mechanisms prone to wear are sometimes necessary. I'd rather have user replaceable parts than a black box I need to buy a whole new one when any one component fails on me.

Harp :wigglytuff: replied to 💜 Dr. Blight ❤️

@Rasp @lapis Yes dear, as I mentioned, sewing machines are following much the same trend and this is correlated strongly to additional features. It's why I wrote about how your jammy luck may be connected strongly to the relatively low technical demands the printers had to meet.

If you want to actually read any of what I wrote instead of just deciding that you are the main character and everyone else needs to be proven wrong.

Or wank off into the sunset. Your choice.

Harp :wigglytuff: replied to Harp

@Rasp @lapis or maybe just, you know. Think about how many modern consumer printers are NOT built to make replaceable parts easily available and easy to fix. Which is the problem.

I will take you just thinking about what you are saying even if you decide to ignore me, at this point.

💜 Dr. Blight ❤️ replied to Harp

@wigglytuffitout @lapis oh I know and it sucks. but thats why if I was going into the market for one that's one thing I'd look for.

Harp :wigglytuff: replied to 💜 Dr. Blight ❤️

@Rasp @lapis So you admit that this is a common and endemic problem, which is just one reason why many people have trouble with their printers...

...but you still think you needed to show up and refute a funny little joke about how people have trouble with printers because you don't think this happens?

...

Again, I am begging you. If you can spend just a few seconds thinking about what you are saying, instead of deciding to piss in someone else's cheerios, we will all be very. Very. Very. Fucking. Grateful. That you have decided to not make yourself a burden and problem for everyone else.

If you cannot do this, you should be on the internet with strict supervision, as you need guidance in not being an asshole. The internet is already too full of horrid, slimy boors who think that things which have never personally happened to them do not exist, and therefore they have the right to make people's lives harder about it. Stop contributing to that number.

@Rasp @lapis So you admit that this is a common and endemic problem, which is just one reason why many people have trouble with their printers...

...but you still think you needed to show up and refute a funny little joke about how people have trouble with printers because you don't think this happens?

💜 Dr. Blight ❤️ replied to Harp

@wigglytuffitout @lapis

...I'm not trying to do any of that? I'm not even disagreeing with the joke I'm just talking about some different experiences I've also had that were less negative?

I never refuted the problem or the joke? I'm not sure where you got that.

💜 Dr. Blight ❤️ replied to 💜 Dr. Blight ❤️

@wigglytuffitout @lapis

All I've done is talk about my laser printer that I really like and some better experiences of the old days before things went to hell. (okay they still sucked but not quite this bad)

I'm not sure where you're getting the rest of this stuff from?

Harp :wigglytuff: replied to 💜 Dr. Blight ❤️

@Rasp @lapis Ah, I appreciate how now you are admitting printers have always sucked instead of saying "well they were always fine for me! By the way, I think you need to know about this while posting a joke for people who aren't me. Because it should be about my experiences actually. Let me tell you why this joke is wrong, at length."

A pity you're only getting here now. You could've just remembered this when you saw the original meme and had a little laugh instead of deciding to become a problem ensconced in lapis's mentions.

@Rasp @lapis Ah, I appreciate how now you are admitting printers have always sucked instead of saying "well they were always fine for me! By the way, I think you need to know about this while posting a joke for people who aren't me. Because it should be about my experiences actually. Let me tell you why this joke is wrong, at length."

Harp :wigglytuff: replied to 💜 Dr. Blight ❤️

@Rasp @lapis But that is exactly what you have been doing this entire time. By replying to a stranger sharing a joke with a list of why you do not think the topic of the joke really exists. Since it doesn't happen to you.

You do not get to this conversation point without looking at this joke and leaping in with the motive of DOESNT HAPPEN TO MEEEE SO LEMME TELL YOU HOW YOURE WWWRRROOOONNNNGGG. That is the content of your posts and reason for posting them. That is what you're doing.

I am begging you. Pleading with you. Offering goats as sacrifice under the full moon in aid of you.

To think about what the fuck you are doing in social interactions.

Though thank you for apparently FINALLY reading something I wrote. Good job. Gold star. There are fifteen more gold stars if you wank off into the sunset to have a think about how not every conversation is for you specifically and must adhere to your life circumstances or else you will come argue about it.

@Rasp @lapis But that is exactly what you have been doing this entire time. By replying to a stranger sharing a joke with a list of why you do not think the topic of the joke really exists. Since it doesn't happen to you.

You do not get to this conversation point without looking at this joke and leaping in with the motive of DOESNT HAPPEN TO MEEEE SO LEMME TELL YOU HOW YOURE WWWRRROOOONNNNGGG. That is the content of your posts and reason for posting them. That is what you're doing.

💜 Dr. Blight ❤️ replied to Harp

@wigglytuffitout @lapis

It happened to me plenty back when I worked in IT and I never denied it happening to anyone else?

💜 Dr. Blight ❤️ replied to 💜 Dr. Blight ❤️

@wigglytuffitout @lapis

I never said the joke was wrong the joke is dead on. I thought it was funny why I boosted it in the first place?

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