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stux⚡

Holy shit.

The Russian gov send in an abuse request for the @Bellingcat to be removed from mstdn.social :amaze:

I am not gonna comply, and have replied to Hetzner

No way I'm gonna let the evils of the gremlin dictate stuff on anything I host

UPDATE: Hetzner ignores their requests and we're in the clear: mstdn.social/@stux/11366257336

We have received an abuse report from 398- fz@rkn.gov.ru for your IP address 49.13.236.103.
Notification is sent about a violation of the distribution of information posted at the following URLs (record ID: 1088855-HB): https://mstdn.social/@Bellingcat

The hosting provider or another person ensuring the placement of the specified information resource on the Internet is obliged:

1) immediately after receiving this notice, inform the owner of the information resource about the need to immediately delete the information disseminated in violation of the law;

2) in case of refusal or inaction of the owner of the information resource to delete the information disseminated in violation of the law, after 24 hours from the date of receipt of this notification, restrict access to the specified information resource.

The owner of the information resource is obliged to delete information disseminated in violation of the law within 24 hours from the date of receipt of the relevant notification from the hosting provider or another person.

Sincerely,

The Federal service for supervision of communications. information technology. and
350 comments
Maddad ☑️

@stux @Bellingcat

Well I know what I'd tell Putin 💩
😂 😂 😂

liilliil 🇫🇯🇱🇨🇱🇧

@stux @Bellingcat

Let’s see how their ban will work, it’s quite interesting… 🤔

Alexis115

Hahaha, and then russia wonders why they are so hated. Censoring people who can't even control. As a member of NAFO, this looks like another prime example of the kremlin's intellectual weakness. Pathetic.
@stux @Bellingcat

🇨🇦️Lunatic At Large 🇨🇦️

@Alexis115 @stux @Bellingcat It would be interesting to see what would happen if Russia tried that with Truth Social. 🤔

AkhIL

@stux @Bellingcat
Btw. roskomnadzor blocks mstdn.social and whole Hetzner for retail internet users.

MissScott01

@stux @Bellingcat
Very sorry you have to deal with this. Not my instance but happy to chip in if/when needed.
#FediSolidarity

Apicultor 🐝

@stux Unfortunately, you should be ready for Hetzner to kill your account.

@Bellingcat

Stuart Longland (VK4MSL)

@stux Sounds like @Bellingcat could use a couple of mirror accounts.

To rkn.gov.ru I refer to the attached image.

Commemorative stamp depicting a Ukrainian soldier on Snake Island giving "the bird" gesture to the Moskva warship.
vandorb12

@stux @Bellingcat while I'm not a member of your instance, thank you for your transparency in this matter.

Forth Co-Processor

@stux @Bellingcat

The fediverse is starting to come under attacks by state actors.

This will not end well. We are not prepared.

Cy
Just looking for an excuse to censor you, sounds like.
StaringAtClouds

@stux @Bellingcat Well if Russia wants them gone then they must be worth following

Aroop Roelofs :verified:

@stux "Watcha gonna go? Give me a 2 undecillion rouble fine?"

@Bellingcat

paulingo

@stux @Bellingcat Classic case of Streisand effect. First thing I do upon hearing this? Follow @Bellingcat - they must be doing something right

AmbularD

@stux @Bellingcat

In practical terms, is there anything they can do to you or the OP, other than send pissy messages about it?

Hans van Zijst
@AmbularD @Bellingcat Not legally. I've seen several Cease-and-desist messages from Rozkomnadzor for one of our customers. We giggle a bit and let our customer know another one's come in.

What are they going to do? Call the police?

But if the Russians get nervous enough, they could of course try to attack the server. I'm sure @stux⚡ understands that.
@AmbularD @Bellingcat Not legally. I've seen several Cease-and-desist messages from Rozkomnadzor for one of our customers. We giggle a bit and let our customer know another one's come in.

What are they going to do? Call the police?
Caleb James DeLisle
KEEP RECENT BACKUPS

Hetzner has kicked people off their service for less.
Gaurav Vaidya

@stux Thanks to Russia for letting me know that @Bellingcat is on Mastodon, I guess. Followed.

Robert Wutz

@stux @Bellingcat

Fuck them wherever, whenever, in which way ever you can. Fuck them, and Fuck them until they cease to exist in any form on this planet, besides as ex-government-functionaries who now are in jail.
Fuck the Russian government.

Wolf480pl

@stux @Bellingcat
btw. since you're hosting users likely to be targeted by a government:

After dealing with this abuse request stuff, you might want to take a look at this, if you haven't already: devever.net/~hl/xmpp-incident

Brad Ackerman

@stux @Bellingcat Roskomnadzor is a designated entity in the EU. Is Hetzner doing anything with their demands other than ignoring them or immediate refusal not material support?

Cyber Yuki

@stux Have these guys got no shame? After influencing every single corporate site, they have the nerve to try to step onto the only place where corporate rules don't apply.

Fuck them.

Bill Zaumen

@stux @Bellingcat Send Putin the Russian joke about Stalin's pipe: Stalin can't find his pipe, so he calls in Beria, his head of the secret police. Stalin says,
"Beria, someone stole my pipe. Find the guy." Beria says, "I'll get right on it." About a half hour later, Stalin calls Beria back and says, "You can call off your dogs. The pipe fell being my desk." Beria says, "What a pity. We have 13 suspects and 12 have already confessed."

jake (he/him) 🇵🇸

@stux you should reply with a singular laughing emoji

Mary Austin VOTED 4 HARRIS!

@stux And this is why I am honored and grateful that you are my admin.

brot

@stux @Bellingcat fuck that Putin asshole and his request.
However, given that I heard about at least three instances of "hetzner decided to cancel my contract and deleted my data after just one email", I would advise for backups that are not hosted on hetzner and maybe a rough idea where you would like to host if hetzner drops you.
Also, a good time to get your domain name recovery codes etc etc.

William Canna-bass

@stux @Bellingcat
Do you have the full letter? What law are they referencing?

PKPs Powerfromspace1

@stux @Bellingcat good luck it's decentralized architecture for a reason

Dr. Koala

@stux @Bellingcat
Whiners gonna whine.
russia and its clownshow of a kleptocratic govt can fuck right off.

TomAoki

@stux @Bellingcat
Naz*Rus* looks more alike radam (in Japanese Animation Tekkaman Blade) than gremlin as of the evilness.

GhostOnTheHalfShell

@stux @Bellingcat

Prolly some troll from Xitler’s little sewer made a request.

SarsCov2Dude

@stux

You need to answer with UA poststamps:

"Russian warship, go and f**k yourself" (as reported by worldwide media)
@Bellingcat

Piiieps & Brummm

@stux
I thought about this case.

1. As others noted: they didn't cite any broken law or offending text. Without any of this, IMHO Hetzner should just drop such a complaint.

2. As @Bellingcat is clearly a journalistic account, they have the protection of Art 5 GG. Even if you're not from Germany, Hetzer is and therefore this applies. Yes, this is meant for the state, but it should be applied to companies as well.

3. Ping some German journalists to push it to the general public.

@stux
I thought about this case.

1. As others noted: they didn't cite any broken law or offending text. Without any of this, IMHO Hetzner should just drop such a complaint.

2. As @Bellingcat is clearly a journalistic account, they have the protection of Art 5 GG. Even if you're not from Germany, Hetzer is and therefore this applies. Yes, this is meant for the state, but it should be applied to companies as well.

Bob

@stux @Bellingcat Russian ministry, not sure they have any real power outside their borders at all tbh.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roskom

sortius

@stux @Bellingcat in the words of the defenders of Snake Island:

Русский военный корабль, иди на хуй

The Great Llama :fuck_verify:

@stux @Bellingcat
The Canadians have an expression that is perfect for moments like this, "Go fuck your hat."

Alexander Sosedkin
@stux @Bellingcat

> the law

> the law

which law, or which jurisdiction, and why would Hetzner or Bellingcat care? (and what's up with said law contradicting your constitution?)

Russian regulators literally think think they own everything they see from their porch. In the digital age, this boyare ruling model is getting extra ridiculous.
@stux @Bellingcat

> the law

> the law

Hache☕

@stux

@Bellingcat has a new follower, Streisand effect is going well, Thanks Putler

Preston MacDougall

@stux @Bellingcat A stuck pig squeaks. #Russia is the pig, and its days are numbered.

ezaquarii

@stux @Bellingcat will hetzner share your opinion?

After all, they really can't wait for the gas flow to resume...

Peter

@stux

Damn, not that it's needed, but that's one heck of an endorsement.

@Bellingcat

osz 🇺🇦

@stux @Bellingcat
Please let us know what's happening in the coming days. I'm using a few #Hetzner services and if they decide to act like a ruSSian propaganda puppet I'll move all my data to somewhere else, let them know why I did it and tell others about it.

CleoMatra

@stux Thx for attention, I didnt know they were at mastodon. 💚 @Bellingcat

Snow the sea pup

@stux @Bellingcat Hopefully nothing happens though when I've gotten abuse reports from unsavory countries like that they froze my account until I complied

David Bender

@stux @Bellingcat @artcollisions
Thanks to the Streisand Effect, I just learned about and now follow @Bellingcat.

Thank you, Russian government!

Yayaeltopian

Stux is about to use the Castle Doctrine to the fullest extent, and I'm here for it.

Karen E. Lund 💙💛

@stux @Bellingcat If "The Federal Service for the Supervision of Communications" isn't the most dystopian phrase I've ever heard, it certainly makes the top five.

Andrij Glyko :ua_tryzub:
@stux

The r*ssians just love to tell everyone that they're "obliged" to do stuff when they actually don't.

@Bellingcat @vazub
Badger AF (he/him)

@stux @Bellingcat Russia, if you're listening:

go fuck yourself.

erin

@stux @Bellingcat should be proud to win this award :)

lopta

@stux @Bellingcat Someone should get a badge or bumper sticker for that.

ldvsoft

@stux @Bellingcat Hi! Russian here, they are just bullying or looking for more reasons to ban hetzner or Mastodon server in Russia (since their argument only makes sense in Russian regime's "law"). I think Hetzner is smart enough not to take any actions based on that joke of a reasoning (I'm looking at you, Apple!).

DHeadshot's Alt

@stux
Unfortunately, Hetzner may not accept that and just take down your server, considering what happened to itch.io last week...
@Bellingcat

Tomscimyt ☥

@stux @Bellingcat I say congrats to Putin for exposing more people to Bellingcat.

Teun Vink

@stux @Bellingcat perfect moment for a donation to keep this mastodon server running, keep up the good work!

Elias Aarnio

@stux @Bellingcat

Hear, hear! Let me know if I can be of assistance.

Acesabe

@stux
Ah great #Bellingcat are on here too - that's an immediate follow!👍
@Bellingcat @GossiTheDog

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