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stilescrisis

@sandor @codepo8 Maybe ten years ago, but they've diverged quite far nowadays.

4bz

@stilescrisis @sandor @codepo8
I'm told safari on Android runs Chromium instead of Webkit. So at least for Android users, Apple Chrome is a thing

stilescrisis

@4bz @sandor @codepo8 Apple does not make an Android Safari. If such an app exists it is just a scam.

4bz

@stilescrisis @sandor @codepo8

Must have been, it's no longer in the app store lol

deBaer

@sandor @codepo8 Safari could be "Chrome's old dad".

Cegorach

@codepo8 "Not Chrome" should be labeled "that other google browser"

OverreadProle

librewolf.net/

Not uncommon to miss a fork in the road. I think this is the mozilla fork that is not a google browser.

chef 😎

@codepo8
As an Opera user, who actually likes the browser:

How come it is labelled "Chinese Chrome"?

Am I missing something?

Julian (♪🌻♫)

@ruedi @codepo8
It's owned by a Chinese company. Also, it's not really the same browser as it was some years ago. Back then they still ran their own engine (Presto), now it's the same Chromium base as most other browsers. Some of the original Opera team went and made Vivaldi, which brings back some of the old Opera's features but is still Chrome at heart.

chef 😎

@TFFPrisoner @codepo8
Thanks for the info. Been using Opera for years, always liked it.

Might have to check out Vivaldi then.

Any advice on how best to switch and use the other browser?

Julian (♪🌻♫)

@ruedi @codepo8
I wish I knew, I'm actually using both intermittently. You can import data from one browser to the other but there are things Vivaldi does that annoy me like not having the smart clipboard function or making unhelpful autocompletes. Then again, Opera also has issues with autocomplete, occasionally making me visit sites I'm not interested at all because I hit enter too quickly 🙄 Plus it's hogging a lot of resources, Vivaldi seems a bit better in that regard.

wortwart

@ruedi @codepo8 Maybe that Opera was sold to a Chinese consortium in 2016?

chef 😎

@wortwart @codepo8
Oops.... really must have missed that. 🤭

wortwart

@ruedi @codepo8 I used to be a big Opera fan myself but I don't trust them anymore and see Vivaldi as old Opera's true heir.

chef 😎

@wortwart @codepo8
First impression: Looks good.

Need to do some personalisation and get my bookmarks in the right place.

Marta Threadbare

@ruedi @codepo8 no idea about China's involvement but I would have labeled it "loan shark chrome"

Peter

@cygnathreadbare

Your avatar is perfect for this conversation 🤣

@ruedi @codepo8

chef 😎

@PeterLG @cygnathreadbare @codepo8
Just saw that. Excellent 😁

Reminds me of starting a Netscape download in the evening to have it finished in the morning. That was in the olden days with modems and smoke signals of course. 🖥️📟😅

COD

@ruedi @PeterLG @cygnathreadbare @codepo8

When we moved a few years ago I found my "I downloaded IE 3.0" tshirt that MS sent me for being one of the first 10K (IIRC) to download their first browser.

sotolf

@codepo8 I see a lack of "Fancy Chrome" (Vivaldi)

Piiieps & Brummm

@sotolf

Or "Viking Chrome" :-)

(headquarter in Oslo, Norway)

@codepo8

Badly-optimised primate

@codepo8 notably
Arc

"Tivo Chrome".

Another browser that could've been an extension.

Kevin

@codepo8 Vivaldi: Blocked by most websites Chrome

Ernesto Monasterio

@mikeTesteLinux @codepo8 Which is the only other instance of “not Chrome” out there.

Dofain

@codepo8 @Ckln seeing the latest news about Firefox, this image might soon be incorrect.

Curioso 🍉 🇺🇦 (jgg)

@codepo8

Vivaldi: Chrome that would like to be the non Chinese Opera.

Turb

@codepo8
I think that's "Chrome's money" on the top right.

Jakub Jirutka 🇪🇺🇺🇦

@codepo8 It’s wrong, Chromium isn’t really open-source, it’s Google project with public code.

RedstoneLP2

@codepo8 so we need "open source not chrome", "crypto not chrome", "chinese not chrome" and "microsoft not chrome"?

alarig

@codepo8 @grifferz Why opera is Chinese? I thought it was Norwegian.

Charlie Stross

@codepo8 Missing Konqueror (whose KHTML component is where it all started) and of course Safari. Google just stole from the real open source browser project.

Appellation Hunter

@codepo8
Firefox Focus has really come on in the past 12 months, really happy with it on LineageOS.

Jon

@codepo8 "Crypto Chrome" looks but one small step away from "Decepticon Chrome".

Ville Takanen

@codepo8 I do think the not Chrome should be changed to 'funded by chrome '.

Just to make clear: Alphabet owns the whole browser-space.

Sven Geggus

@codepo8 Oh I did not know that Opera has been sold to a Chinese consortium.

jd

@codepo8 Opera is Chinese? Good to know. Thanks!

Determination G. Schadenfreude

@codepo8 @cstross unfortunately the way Mozilla Foundation is headed I think Firefox might be labeled “Not Chrome… YET”

Martin Ueding

@gregly @codepo8 @cstross
Yeah, I find it irritating what I hear from there. I still use Firefox, but I'm wary.

Lupi 🇦🇺

@codepo8

the irony being that Opera is the only one with a built in VPN

Liam Iwakura
@jazzilla @Lupi do the Mozilla VPN ads on the private browsing new tab page count as "built-in"?
ティージェーグレェ

@codepo8 #Alt4You

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Chromium icon text sub heading: "Open Source Chrome"

Brave icon text sub heading: "Crypto Chrome"

Firefox icon text sub heading: "Not Chrome"

Opera icon text sub heading: "Chinese Chrome"

Chrome icon text sub heading: "Chome"

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Maike

@codepo8
#Alt4You A meme showing the logos/icons of six browsers with the captions "Open Source Chrome", *Crypto Chrome", "Not Chrome" (FireFox), "Chinese Chrome", "Chrome", "Microsoft Chrome".

joe

@codepo8 in the end chrome is a webkit-kde-filemanager-fork, if I remember it right

taketwo

@codepo8 Unfortunately that doesn't change the financial dependency of Firefox.

GabeMoralesVR

@codepo8 seeing opera reduced to "chinese chrome" hurts so much.

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