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Darius Kazemi

Maybe I'm putting words in Alex's mouth, but the article more or less matches my thoughts at the time I was doing W3C stuff (2011): we are already fingerprinted and tracked to death. Alex points out that simply not using Tor means you are fully trackable no matter what other protections are in place. Since we are already living in this fully-tracked world, why not actually enhance browser features that will lead to better security along OTHER vectors like the one in my above post?

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christa

@darius yes, this! we're running an interview with sarah t hamid of the carceral tech resistance network for our next logic issue, and one of the *snaps* things she talks about is how this threat of surveillance capitalism has shifted the focus of surveillance to "oh creepy" instead of looking at the specific threats posted by specific communities of surveillance. this seems like a concrete example of that—focusing on privacy broadly, as opposed to the impact of that lack of privacy specifically

Darius Kazemi

Perhaps our obsession with third-party trackers is the online equivalent of focus on "stranger danger": yes it's worth putting energy into solving but I think it's low-hanging fruit that addresses ultimately a small amount of online abuse and makes for good PR. Meanwhile it tends to sucks up resources, leaving not much left over for work on intimate/targeted attacks.

charlag

@darius that's why we need "web pages" and "web apps" as separate things

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