Gregory's ServerNon-Americans watching the US struggle to decide between electing a professional career politician or a racist serial sex offender with 34 felony convictions and the IQ of a spoon
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  @FritzAdalis @malwaretech hey! we love spoons! Just like we love jellyfish (another thing Trump is like) What we *don't* love is when people take one of their defining traits and emulate it while still being human shaped. In the case of spoons, it's thinking power. In the case of jellyfish it's using the same hole for eating and spewing shit.  The sunlit uplands of enlightenment democracy or the Turd Reich. Really shouldn't be a difficult choice 😣🤦♂️ @armeris @malwaretech “We” requires some definition. Pretending this is a similar scenario requires rather a lot of suspension of disbelief. @c_9 @malwaretech I meant “non US people”. Probably for the US there are big differences but not for the rest of the world @armeris I am also outside the US. The effects of the election are different for us, but the impact on global democracy, global nuclear proliferation, global carbon emissions, Russia/Ukraine, Israel/Palestine, and global rule of law, are all in the “big difference” column for me. Yeah. The genocide in Gaza will pretty much be the same, and given the fact the USA is already a fascist country (it has been for a long time, only now you're seeing the things as they really are), what really counts is how that's gonna play outside North America: if Pelosi or Melania, if Laura Richardson or Mike Pence. Unless, of course, you go into a civil war, in which case I sincerely hope Mexico reinforces its borders. @malwaretech like 20 people in "swing states" are actually undecided. the rest of us are decisively okay, decisively awful, or too busy earning minimum wage to tune in. @malwaretech I can't blame, in Argentina won the one who should be in a psychiatrist, who talks to dead animals using mediums and thinks he's Moses. You can't reason with a populist and they followers.  Problem is, the last decade has shown me how ridiculously easy it is for populism to coerce the majority of the population into anger and direct it towards whatever goal the fascists have. Which is to say, I'm starting to lose hope in democracy
 @Nexy @malwaretech Well, at least he doesn't seem to shill for Putin. Some mercy I guess... I much prefer a ridiculous and ridiculed leader to one who does harm on purpose because he's personally not harmed too much... @cohentheblue @malwaretech he shill for Israel. And he is harming us all as no one before (ignoring the military state strikes), if was legal kill the half of his own country population he will do it without a doubt. > You can't reason with a populist and they followers. And you can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into. @raganwald @malwaretech they are 100% emotional, you cant reason. but you can try to apeal to they emotional side I suppose. @Nexy @malwaretech Speaking as an ex-salesperson, THIS. People sometimes have an emotional objection to buying a thing, like fear of ridicule (I sold Macs during the 90s when Windows dominated, that was real). People wouldn't say they were afraid of ridicule, so they'd talk about the price or the available software. You couldn't answer their questions directly, that would be trying to reason them out of an emotional objection. But you could appeal to a sense of exclusivity, or competence. @Nexy @malwaretech I see a late campaign appealing to men to vote Harris for their daughters. That's countering emotion with emotion. Talking to them about Harris' economic policies won't move that needle. @malwaretech I'm pretty sure a spoon is smarter than trump. Vance is twistier than a corkscrew, though. @bughuntercat@infosec.exchange @malwaretech This is an example of voter suppression: pretending that they’re the same, to push progressive voters to avoid voting, so the worse candidate wins and makes things worse. Don’t do that. @malwaretech @bughuntercat tell you what…I’ll serve you either chicken cordon bleu or bullshit flambé. But they both have fancy names….so they are the same, right? That’s how bad you sound.  @bughuntercat @malwaretech It does matter - the choice now is between a politician (Kamala) who respects democratic institutions and a foul-mouthed clown who doesn't. It is a lot easier to fix some bad policies than to remove a tyrant with an "enemies" list. If you think one of Kamala's policies is wrong and have a cogent argument explaining why, I think she'll listen to you. Would Trump?    @malwaretech Have to admit a huge loss of respect for all of them. The election shouldn't be close. @soc @malwaretech how about disrespect the ones that deserve it, and realize that the rest of us are fighting them tooth and nail. @Blueteamsherpa @malwaretech I'm not going to haggle about the exact percentage of shit in a shit sandwich.  @malwaretech This is the third time in a row so hopefully they're used to it by now. I'm sure we'll make the right decision but goddamn it's tiring.  @malwaretech to quote Holly from Red Dwarf: "that's a poor IQ for a glass of water"   @malwaretech It just... floors me that this is where we are. That this is even remotely close-ish. That Trump wasn't straight up removed from the running in 2015... This country needs a long, hard look in a mirror. @malwaretech German version of onion: https://www.der-postillon.com/2024/11/fifty-fifty.html @da_667 @malwaretech taking those pictures of signs so that you know who would rat you out to the Gestapo  @malwaretech This started trending on YouTube again, despite being 4 years old, and yet...somehow it's still a relevant feeling. [ https://youtu.be/fHjbDSOmeiM?si=ecGThmXV-YjOllu3 ]  @malwaretech "It's a tough decision, because the spoon keeps telling me he made everything better last time he was in charge, and due to childhood lead exposure I have no memory of anything before last Thursday."  I'm Canadian. The leader of Alberta talked about Chemtrials and how she thinks the American DOD is spraying chemicals on Albertans. She just got 91% approval from her party. Stuff like this is just not acceptable. You might not like Trump, that is your choice, but dragging spoons into this, and insulting them like that, well, enough is enough.  @malwaretech Which was the one with the IQ of a spoon again? I have trouble figuring it out from the stuff they say... On a serious note, many people would vote for one of them *because* he's not a career politician, despite everything else. They are fed up with career politicians. It's almost as if this story has already happened about a century ago in another country...  @malwaretech In "fairness", to a non-zero portion of the country, "career politician" is about as revolting  @malwaretech@infosec.exchange that's why we need to vote third party. even libertarian would be better.  @malwaretech Trust me, that's the same reaction a lot of us USAmericans have too. :dragnshock:  @malwaretech think…think…think. DAMMIT WHY IS THIS CHOICE SO HARD?  @malwaretech the cable news outlet with the hghest viewership in the country paints Trump with a very flattering brush Downright fantasy levels. A lot of Americans simply have no idea how bad he is @malwaretech The worst kind of Americans are the ones that think that they are too good to vote for Harris. Fuck them. @malwaretech I think your toot was unfair - to the spoons, not to Trump. Not fully original on my part: in Duck Soup, Rufus J. Firefly (Groucho Marx) "apologizes" to Ambassador Trentino after calling him a baboon by saying, "I shouldn't have said that. It was insensitive of me. It isn't fair to the other baboons."   |
@malwaretech Or like this:
https://shelter.moe/@TritTriton/113421480957492202