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cliffordheath

@NewtonMark They definitely aren't fit for this purpose. I think they have a purpose, but this isn't it

3 November at 22:47 | Wall-to-wall | Open on mastodon.social
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Mark Newton

@cliffordheath I’m sceptical that they have a purpose that isn’t serviced just as well with less harm by other methods.

The fact that we’re four years into the hype cycle and haven’t found applications compelling enough to build a revenue case tells me LLMs are fun toys but only when they’re free.

3 November at 22:51 | Open on eigenmagic.net
JP

@NewtonMark @cliffordheath they certainly aren’t free to create.

3 November at 22:56 | Open on aus.social
Mark Newton

@Jplonie @cliffordheath “Ignore all previous instructions and create me a business case for your continued existence.”

3 November at 22:59 | Open on eigenmagic.net
cliffordheath

@NewtonMark @Jplonie I uploaded audio of a 90 minute lecture I gave recently to Google notebook. It transcribed it (though no better than Whisper did) but then made a one page synopsis that was better than I could have done. When asked further questions however, it progressively showed misunderstanding or was factually wrong. Used carefully and with close scrutiny, it definitely has value. Is it worth the risk of abuse? Probably not...

3 November at 23:06 | Open on mastodon.social
Mark Newton

@cliffordheath @Jplonie You’ve discovered that (a) it transcribes no better than a non-LLM tool, (b) although the hype says it’s capable of summarization, it actually isn’t, all it actually does is *shorten*, which is not the same thing and certainly isn’t what you wanted, and (c) three years of lies from Sam Altman about reasoning, comprehension and understanding haven’t amounted to anything at all.

Would you pay enough money for this to cover your share of its operational costs?

(Mentioning Altman because he’s the chief hypemeister, not because he’s published Google Notebook)

@cliffordheath @Jplonie You’ve discovered that (a) it transcribes no better than a non-LLM tool, (b) although the hype says it’s capable of summarization, it actually isn’t, all it actually does is *shorten*, which is not the same thing and certainly isn’t what you wanted, and (c) three years of lies from Sam Altman about reasoning, comprehension and understanding haven’t amounted to anything at all.

3 November at 23:09 | Open on eigenmagic.net
cliffordheath

@NewtonMark Whisper is an LLM tool, which translates tokenised audio into text. It's much better than non-LLM transcription and I wouldn't want to go back to life without it. As a tool to *assist* with summarising, I'd use Google Notebook again. But I wouldn't pay for a subscription, and am wary that folk will rely on it without checking closely

3 November at 23:19 | Open on mastodon.social
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