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Sue Archer

@peter

Oh, that made me laugh out loud, which hurts at the moment due to whiplash.

Someone should do an embroidery of that....

Kim

@suearcher@toot.wales @peter@thepit.social I've learned something new about HTML at least, if not embroidery.

mark in europe 🇺🇸🇪🇺🇮🇪

@peter @caity I needed that laugh - I don’t think anyone has ever yelled at me about embroidery

@pineywoozle (s) for HARRIS

@peter
🤣 🤣 🤣 There’s something oddly sweet about it. 🥰 It’s like an older lady who needs stronger and stronger reading glasses to finish the flower covered shirt for her grandson who will never wear it. #Embroidery

yetzt

@peter back in the day it wasn't unusual not to close <p> tags, the author must have assumed the same goes for any tag. and i wouldn't be surprised if it worked just fine in one of the browsers.

Dec.tar.bz2

@yetzt @peter
Lynx will probably render it OK.
I tested it in w3m and that works fine.

InsertUser

@yetzt I saw a video on this site at one point. IIRC it worked in all the browsers because back then the default heading styles were fixed font sizes and they assumed the heading ended at the end of the line. More recent browsers apparently do them relative to the previous size so you have the rapid expansion.
@peter

Brandon

@peter it’s like a zip bomb for my browser! Thanks

~julia

@peter I KNOW THIS ONE !!!! i saw video about it at some point :]

Martin Vogel

@peter So what exactly happens here? Not to close the h2- and h3-tags does not lead to such a behaviour.

adamrice

@mardor @peter It’s pretty pathological HTML. It looks like what is causing this is *nesting* later H3 tags inside earlier ones.

Amalgam

@adamrice @mardor @peter but does that mean that they multiply in size? I need to test this when I get to a computer.

Wouldn’t it just stay the size that h3 is set to? Not become h3 squared

Drezil :butterfly_trans:

@adamrice @mardor @peter that STILL should not make it look this way. To me it looks like a css-rule like "font-size: 120%" or so on a h3-tag that got reapplied endlessly ^^

Cadbury Moose

@peter

3:O)))>

Please.... can someone animate that to the Star Wars opening crawl, possibly with the music getting louder and louder as the font size increases. (The actual "Main Theme" on CD lasts almost six minutes, which ought to be long enough.)

Etherbloom

@peter TIL that you can stack h3 tags. Huh, manmade horrors beyond human comprehension. Neat!

Zumbador

@peter Oh this is absolutely EPIC.

#Alt4You
Alt text for the screenshot:
Screenshot of a post by Emma Zhou @emmz.bsky.social
Text of the post:
does everybody know about my favorite website, the embroidery tips
page that forgot to close its <h3> tags
Followed by a link title "Embroidery Trouble Shooting Page" and a web.archive.org link to the article.

Thomas Sturm

@peter Embroidery was never this ANGRY before.

Noah S. McKinnon 🇵🇷🇨🇺

@peter I saw this over there and showed it to my wife. Couldn’t stop giggling the entire time. We haven’t laughed that hard in years.

hazel

@peter it's cause on some browser user-agents, the font-size of an h3 tag was defined absolutely, not relative to the current font-size. here's a screenshot on windows 9x!

hazel

@peter this isn't my screenshot, but i have seen this site before and saw someone explain this context so i went searching for proof and found this screenshot linked when this site was shared on Hacker News news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2

Hadley T. Canine 🏳️‍⚧️

@h @peter Yeah, I vaguely remember that the way those tags worked was changed sometime around when CSS was first introduced, or at least sometime after browsers finally started actually correctly implementing CSS.

BOOST PINNED PLS

@peter alt text:

Post from Emma Zhou on Bluesky. As follows: "does everybody know about my favorite website, the embroidery tips page that forgot to close its h3 tags"

The link goes to an archived snapshot of an embroidery website, where the text gets bigger and bigger with each paragraph. Read it like you're screaming for extra effect.

BJ Swope :verified:➖

@peter until the VERY end where it has this in a tiny tiny font….

If a problem persists, we recommend that you contact
Sewing and Embroidery Warehouse

Heathen ➡️ AnthrOhio

@peter
This perfectly encapsulates the dread I feel every time I use a sewing machine.

sluttymayo

@peter amazing. sideways-scrolling across giant sans-serif letters taller than the screen felt like a graphical flourish from the intro to a 1960s spy movie or something

Raven Luni

@peter At least its handy for visually impaired people :p

_jayrope :hubzilla:
@Peter Krupa Hilarious!

... the actual text:

"Embroidery Trouble Shooting Guide

Thread Breakage
Causes:
Improper Thread
Try re-threading the machine; make sure the thread goes through all guides.
Burrs
There may be burrs in the needle's eye, on the thread guides, needle plate or the hook. Replace the needle and try buffing the thread guides and needle plate. Buffing may alter the timing, so it's a good idea to replace a damaged hook.
Dry Hook
Because it dries out faster, the hook needs frequent lubrication. The hook assembly should be lubricated every 4-8 hours of machine running time.
Needle to small
You may have to change to a larger needle
Too much Adhesive spray
You should be using only Embroidery designed adhesive sprays, never over use them. Too much adhesive build up on the needle can cause them to drag and break threads. If this is happening you should examine the way you use your adhesive spray
Improper timing
If your machine isn't timed properly, it can cause many probems in addition to thread breaks. Such as broken needles, poor stitching or sometimes no stitching.
Old Thread
Thread can become brittle with age and long exposure to light, air and heat. You should store your thread in a cool, dark place to lengthen shelf life.
Bruised cone
A bruised cone of thread can occur if the thread falls on the floor, causing the lower winding of thread to loosen and catch as the thread spools off. You can take off the affected part of the thread or replace the cone.
Machine speed
Some of the designs increase the stress on thread. You should lower the machine speed as needed
Lint build up
A lint build up on the tension discs, needle plate or bobbin cases can cause breakage. These areas should be cleaned frequently with air or a brush.
Bent needle
This can happen after the needle hits a very hard object such as a Hoop, needle plate or the hook. If this happens you have to replace the needle and check for burrs and the timing.
Improper tensions
If the tension is too tight, it can cause pulling, puckering and thread stress. If the thread is too loose it can cause the thread to pile up and loop. You have to adjust the tensions to achieve a flat smooth look.
Using Tape for loose ends
Using tape can leave a residue and this can cause friction and thread breakage.
Holding the thread
If you hold the loose end of the thread when you start up the machine and you are pulling the thread too tight, it can cause the needle to bend or break and can also cause the thread to break.

Stitches form wrong or not at all
Causes:
Empty Bobbin
replace
Retaining finger in wrong position
loop can not form
Improper Timing
the bobbin hook won't catch the loop
Needle position is incorrect
can cause the timing to be off
Damaged hook
replace

Missed stitches
Causes:
Wrong Needle Size
in relation to the thread and this can make it difficult for loops to form
Thread is to tight or to loose
causes irregular loops to form
Timing is incorrect
can cause the bobbin hook to not catch the loop

Needle breaks
Causes:
Bent needle
replace
Dull needle
will bend and eventually break, replace
Timing wrong
damage to needle and hook and poor stitch quality
Holding thread during startup
can bend the needle and break the thread
Needle is inserted wrong
insert all the way up the needle bar shaft and needle screw is tight

Needle cuts holes in garment
Causes:
Dull needle
difficult to pierce garment causing tearing
Needle point is wrong type
wrong point can damage some fabrics, try a ballpoint
Needle to large
can stretch fabrics
Fabrics are to delicate
may have to use a topping

The design is out of register
Causes:
Garment is hooped to loosley
re-hoop but do not stretch fabric
The fabric is unstable
you may have to use a heavier backing

Garment is puckering
Causes:
Tensions to tight for a particular thread or garment
Improper hooping
Unstable fabric
Dull needles
Too many stitches in an area

These are some of the normal problems you may experience during the Embroidery Process."Sent to the #Fediverse from a #Hubzilla instance.
@Peter Krupa Hilarious!

... the actual text:

"Embroidery Trouble Shooting Guide
Radio Resistance

@peter i wish all sites were like this. it's exciting to read.

Marc Pfister

@peter more like Embroidery Trouble Shouting

Alexandra Magin 🏳️‍🌈

@peter Wait, what, H tags accumulate when nested? I never knew

Diplo Dino

@peter I’m halfway down the page and it feels like art 👏 i love it

Stephen Tures

@peter in case anyone doesn't feel like opening and scrolling

Space Hobo Actual

@peter Oh yes, an absolute classic of the very best of the Web.

Eric G.

@peter It is a period of civil embroidery.
Rebel tatters, striking
from a hidden base, have won
their first victory against
the evil Darning Empire.

Virginicus

@peter When we talk about how the Web is no good anymore, we mean because it doesn’t have pages like this.

Guba

@peter Please stop shouting, I am very scared.

Robert Jan Schutten

@peter Mostly surprised that the web browser didn’t crash rendering this.

Maddler the Badger

@peter that's the Star Wars ebroidery club! 🤣

Peter Nerlich

@peter no idea whether I'm just in a weird mood, but I literally laughed tears while scrolling down the page

Reni

@peter my bf said this is what anxiety feels like

snowyfox

Bluesky post. "does everybody know about my favorite website, the embroidery tips page that forgot to close its <h3> tags"
web.archive.org card, "Embroidery Trouble Shooting Page Answers to all your questions about Embroidery problems". Nothing strange about the link card, it's the site itself you have to visit.
A standard HTML page, but h3's size-up of the font size stacks when you nest it, so every single section title onwards, the font size of the whole section increases, so the site text is just getting bigger and bigger as you go down. 'Old Thread' with two sentences has become like a Powerpoint slide with the whole page occupied.

Post by Emma Zhou @emmz.bsky.social

#Alt4You

Bluesky post. "does everybody know about my favorite website, the embroidery tips page that forgot to close its <h3> tags"
web.archive.org card, "Embroidery Trouble Shooting Page Answers to all your questions about Embroidery problems". Nothing strange about the link card, it's the site itself you have to visit.
A standard HTML page, but h3's size-up of the font size stacks when you nest it, so every single section title onwards, the font size of the whole section increases, so the site text is just...

Nullstring 🏴‍☠️

@peter i fucking cant believe how hard i laughed at that

Legit_Spaghetti
ThesearesomeofthenormalproblemsyoumayencounterduringtheEmbroideryprocess.

This is art. Holy shit, my sides.

@peter

scrottie (he/him/they)

@peter (Please pardon the @... screenshot of Emmu Zhou on bsky posting "does everyone know about my favorite website, the embroidery tips page that forget to close its <h3> tags" with a link to the same archive.org page. the <h3>'s are nested, so at least in some browsers, each successive tip is in a larger font than the previous, quickly reaching ridiculous proportions and just continuing. It's like if the Star Wars opening credits were verbally assaulting you.

Daneel Adrian Cayce

@peter Viewing this on a semi-large monitor at 30% zoom is the best thing I have done all week

jelte

@peter "A display of existential thread" - Unknown Artist, 2004

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