Gregory's Server@venite awesome! I've heard this kind of point made before and it's such a good one. I personally actually am interested in the social and motivational communities around learning, not just convincing technical communities that crafts can also be technical :)
@grimalkina @venite this is a bit of a tangent so I don't know if it'll bear fruit, but this reminds me of something Beau of the Fifth Column said about the US military superpower is not just/primarily expensive equipment, it's pedagogy the the ability to teach complex skills to complete beginners reliably and repeatably. Maybe McDonald's has a similar experience. This was in context of Navy Seals organizing villagers, 6 sailors, no matter how good, can only do so much alone.