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Simon Lucy

@yvanspijk

Trust me, I live 9 miles away from Worcester in Worcestershire, no one says wOOster, that would be Bertie Wooster. (though southern English accents would likely use Wuster for that too).

The sound on the site is right, but that is Wuster.

It's like the difference between BOOster and BUster.

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Simon Lucy

@yvanspijk

The must common American pronunciation I've heard for those that aren't familiar with the word try and say "WAHrcester" or something similar, and Worcestershire defeats them utterly.

That's "Wustershuh", naturally :-)

E. C. Bigribs

@simon_lucy
Americans who live within a day's drive of Worcester, Massachusetts* pronounce it "Wustah" because of course they do and just try stopping them.

And, as British place names migrated westward and got recycled in different states, the little Worcester clones in Ohio and Iowa (and probably other places) became Woosters.

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* Except people in Connecticut, who go out of their way to pronounce it "Wurr-sturr," to piss off their neighbors in Massachusetts.

@yvanspijk

@simon_lucy
Americans who live within a day's drive of Worcester, Massachusetts* pronounce it "Wustah" because of course they do and just try stopping them.

And, as British place names migrated westward and got recycled in different states, the little Worcester clones in Ohio and Iowa (and probably other places) became Woosters.

Yoïn van Spijk

@simon_lucy I see. I think the confusion arose because OO can have multiple pronunciations: the one of 'foot', 'wool' etc. and the one of 'goose', 'doom' etc. I used the 'Wooster' spelling, the way the surname that's derived from 'Worcester' is spelled.

Simon Lucy

@yvanspijk

The vowel sound in English might seem detached from the spelling but it isn't. The pronunciation tends to be consistent for the same word, wool is generally wuhl within the range of the accent but wooly, to have the nature of wool is more extended it kind of falls between uh and oo.

But someone from Liverpool would likely pronounce book and cook as BOOk and COOk, though personally I never did.

Simon Lucy

@yvanspijk

The phoneme 'ʊ' is that short uh and it's unfortunate that the description for English uses words with 'oo' rather than unambiguous words like 'lug', 'but' and 'multiply'.

English is hard enough to explain as it is. And it remains that Worcester is a weird word. As it happens I think the Etymology is wrong as well.

I think Vertis and ceastre evolved into Wercester. We still have an existing Roman Wall.

Simon Lucy

@clickhere @yvanspijk

Buhk because my Mother was intent on me speaking properly, my younger brother got away with a broader Scouse.

File under the tortures that the eldest child undergoes.

the harbinger of eternal sept

@simon_lucy @yvanspijk the “correct” pronunciation is moot because it actually rings out like

“war chest ahhh”

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