no no no *you* can't freely scan through the collected...

no no no *you* can't freely scan through the collected works of humanity, that right is reserved for the large language models.

Like 4 September at 20:23 | Open on tiny.tilde.website

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Toilet full of bugs

@selfsame This is an absolute fucking banger of a post

4 September at 20:41 | Open on topspicy.social

David Keck

@selfsame this is seriously *so good* that i don't even know what to say

4 September at 22:23 | Open on mastodon.online

Michael

Petition to reclassify myself as three large language models in a trench coat. @selfsame @molly0xfff

4 September at 22:26 | Open on petrous.vislae.town

Jordan Biserkov

@selfsame
Very well said!
LLMs = Large Leeching Models.

4 September at 22:39 | Open on mas.to

jbaggs

@selfsame Dwelling on this a bit, when exactly did the US pass from "Corporations are people" to "Black box statistical models are people, and they have more rights than you?"

5 September at 0:03 | Open on infosec.exchange

Sherri W (SyntaxSeed)

@jbaggs @selfsame No no... *money* is people & it has more rights than you. The bigger the money the more this applies.

5 September at 0:57 | Open on phpc.social

jbaggs

@syntaxseed @selfsame Thank you for explaining my own comment to me. Aside from sorting out any actual issues of legal standing.

5 September at 0:58 | Open on infosec.exchange

Sherri W (SyntaxSeed)

@jbaggs @selfsame I was agreeing.

5 September at 1:06 | Open on phpc.social

jbaggs

@syntaxseed @selfsame I feel the fact that corporate "personhood" , whether I agree with it or not, went through debate in the legal system is at least a bit of an important distinction.

5 September at 1:18 | Open on infosec.exchange

Mark Gjøl

@syntaxseed @jbaggs @selfsame
I believe the CEO of Volvo in 1988 mentioned that cash is king.

5 September at 13:53 | Open on mstdn.dk

Lykso

@jbaggs @selfsame Capitalism. Any debate in the legal system is purely for show. The capital class generally gets what it wants under capitalism.

5 September at 2:44 | Open on tiny.tilde.website

jbaggs

@lykso@tiny.tilde.website @selfsame I disagree that any debate in the legal system is hopeless. There are plenty of people who went into the legal profession to fix things and sometimes actually do. Some of them even belong to organizations that work more towards freedoms for the general population and not for corporate interest. I'll leave looking for such orgs as an "exercise for the reader" but I bet you could pick out a couple if you tried.

I'm also wondering why you started by saying anything in the legal system is "purely for show" and then backed off to saying the monied "generally" get what they want. It sounds like you aren't fully convinced of your own argument.

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5 September at 5:30 | Open on infosec.exchange

Sally Strange

@jbaggs @selfsame

5 September at 11:24 | Open on eldritch.cafe

bojkotiMalbona

@jbaggs @selfsame There needs to be an amendment to the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (#UDHR) to generally state not only are humans equal to each other but also they shall never lack rights given to corps & machines.

It’s interesting to note that the reason encryption was not banned: corporations need encryption to protect trade secrets and facilitate commerce. Individuals benefit from the privacy of encryption only incidentally.

I’m not clear on what court decision triggered the OP but it seems like a departure from the cryptography scenario.

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5 September at 7:46 | Open on infosec.exchange

Russ Sharek

@selfsame

Well said.

5 September at 0:28 | Open on mastodon.art

mocom

@selfsame but not to worry, the models will interpret anything for you, so you don't have to waste precious brain power developing your own understanding

5 September at 0:55 | Open on mastodon.social

MLanzarotta_1

@selfsame Only a machine can stomach what humanity has done.

5 September at 1:01 | Open on mastodon.social

bouriquet

@selfsame Just imagine if we could scan the entire Vatican library, even the volumes that are hidden from access, perhaps texts brought back from the Maya and Aztec cultures.
What revelations would we find?

5 September at 1:34 | Open on mastodon.social

Wulfy

@bouriquet @selfsame

Annunaki

5 September at 6:37 | Open on infosec.exchange

Dec.tar.bz2

@bouriquet @selfsame
The cyberpunk novel "Snow Crash" warned us against this exact thing.

5 September at 10:51 | Open on mastodon.ie

Lykso

@selfsame Almost as if class war is being waged whether we engage in it or not. 🤔

5 September at 2:44 | Open on tiny.tilde.website

Wulfy

@lykso @selfsame

Hahaha... "Class war being waged'

Let me quote Warren Buffett right in your proletarian face....

"Yes there is a class war being waged...and the people have lost."

5 September at 6:38 | Open on infosec.exchange

Lykso

@n_dimension @selfsame Yes, naturally Warren Buffet would say this; he has a vested interest in sowing that kind of despair. However, I do not personally believe we have arrived at the end of history.

5 September at 6:54 | Open on tiny.tilde.website

Ilya Zverev

@lykso @selfsame

It's only a class war if you rebel against the rich. Otherwise it's just sparkling free market.

5 September at 17:36 | Open on en.osm.town

xyhhx :PunkFelix:

@selfsame next thing you know we will have IA AI

5 September at 3:01 | Open on 438punk.house

Acin on .art

@xyhhx @selfsame

I hate to be the one to break this you, but Internet Archive has been using OpenAI products for a while.

The organization has been promoting AI to the "dazzled" US government. That's AI from the same organization said to have scraped almost 200,000 books without consent for the training of LLMs.

IA is not anywhere near as ethically good as we want(ed) it to be.

https://blog.archive.org/2023/04/28/internet-archive-weighs-in-on-artificial-intelligence-at-the-copyright-office/

5 September at 11:31 | Open on mastodon.art

xyhhx :PunkFelix:

@shadowfals it was mostly a play on words, but yeah this sucks

@selfsame

5 September at 11:55 | Open on 438punk.house

Acin on .art

I meant "good" and not "pure". So I've corrected my above post.

5 September at 14:29 | Open on mastodon.art

yayroos

@selfsame after all, you might use it for something like learning or art or joy. Can't possibly have that when someone could be making money!

5 September at 5:43 | Open on tech.lgbt

yayroos

@selfsame speaking of which i think I'm gonna go make some software i want to enjoy with some data that ought to be available even if i have to slip it out the gap in an API, since i've taken the afternoon off work for the purposes of remembering what actually matters (hint: it's not work)

5 September at 5:46 | Open on tech.lgbt

Wyatt (🏳️‍⚧️♀?)

no no no you can't freely scan through the collected works of humanity, that right is reserved for the large language models.

@selfsame freedom intensifies

5 September at 6:45 | Open on tech.lgbt

Tommi Nieminen

@selfsame THIS!!! A million times, this. Whatever is created should belong to the people, the general public, not to the ultrarich and their technotoys.

5 September at 8:54 | Open on mastodontti.fi

Lea (headpat dispenser)

@selfsame@tiny.tilde.website I'm a large language model as in i read something and then pretend i know everything about the topic and tell everyone who will listen a bunch of half truths and lies about it

5 September at 10:11 | Open on lea.pet

False Vacuum

@selfsame@tiny.tilde.website What does this refer to this time?

5 September at 10:12 | Open on kitsunes.club

Advanced Persistent Teapot

@selfsame is your gross revenue over 5 billion dollars? No? Then go to jail.

Ah, Mr Nadella sir, right this way. Champagne while you pillage? Or we have a 1972 vintage...

5 September at 11:55 | Open on hachyderm.io

IFcoltransG in drops of ichor

@selfsame
I wonder if it's time to start making publicly available "datasets" that are secretly just pirate libraries for humans. Release a slew of little 'LLMs' all designed to memorise a book each. Swear hand-on-heart they're stochastic and transformative; wink that the inner workings are a trade secret.