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CurrentBias

"The results show [iota-carageenan] has potent antiviral activity compared to placebo and a favorable safety profile. Although further research is needed, the concept of a physical barrier capable of reducing viral penetration of epithelial cells in the nasal mucosa is appealing, and could lead to alternative approaches, with positive impact on global health."

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/

Layered precautions are like mods for your immune system. I installed one called Betadine Cold Defence Nasal Spray

#PublicHealth #CovidIsNotOver

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CurrentBias

Here's the thing, though. This will never work for all, if not most of the aerosols you inhale that travel directly, deep into the lungs. Some will hit the nasal mucosa and bind to the iota-carageenan, and this may reduce the overall viral load, but it's not going to stop a cloud of SARSCoV2. Only a respirator can do that

Paul Sochacki

@currentbias That's a good point - I wonder how effective a nasal spray would be for people constantly dining out or partying like it's 2019. I imagine people breathing through their mouths while eating, drinking, and socializing would defeat the purpose of a nasal spray, too.

ixtility

@BioGeek23 @currentbias Agree. Have no relevant specialist background, but have never thought nasal sprays alone would be a good defense because some inhaled air will bypass sprayed areas. Also, am aware nasal sprays may have risks. Micro-organisms can reach the brain (e.g. causing meningitis) from the nose and throat. Maybe paranoid, but people losing eyes/sight from contaminated eye drops makes me wary about using nasal sprays. Respirator = physical barrier = better IMHO

A Concerned Scientist

@currentbias

I really don't know how well this paper has held up over the years, but it's something I've gone back to a few times since even before COVID as a reference.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/

Someone will probably come and tell me it's horribly outdated now :)

"Inhaled droplets of more than 10 μm in diameter are trapped in the turbinates of the nose (Fig. 2), whereas those measuring 5–10 μm often reach the trachea and bronchioles. Many of these particles become trapped in the layer of mucus that blankets the ciliated epithelium and are carried by ciliary action to the pharynx, where they are swallowed or coughed out. Smaller particles still can be inhaled directly into the lung and some may reach the alveoli. Here, virus may be phagocytosed and destroyed by alveolar macrophages (although some viral species undergo an abortive cycle of replication and others have developed the capacity to replicate in macrophages). A few virions will succeed in attaching to susceptible epithelial cells via the appropriate ligand–receptor pairing and thereby initiate infection. Progeny virions will be released a few hours later, often by budding from the apical surface of the cell into the lumen of the respiratory tract, and then initiate a second cycle of infection in adjacent or more distant cells.

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While some viruses have a predilection for one particular part of the respiratory tract, most are capable of causing disease at any level..."

@currentbias

I really don't know how well this paper has held up over the years, but it's something I've gone back to a few times since even before COVID as a reference.

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/

Someone will probably come and tell me it's horribly outdated now :)

"Inhaled droplets of more than 10 μm in diameter are trapped in the turbinates of the nose (Fig. 2), whereas those measuring 5–10 μm often reach the trachea and bronchioles. Many of these particles become trapped...

K-ZO da Snowman

@currentbias the study about xylitol or I-C Nasal sprays with nurses worked to reduce infection because it was in combination with masks. Nasal sprays are just an additional layer, the main defense is always masking and air cleaning.

Traiken

@currentbias Anecdotally, I’ve been using Betadine for months and my allergies are nowhere near as bad as they usually get. That feels like, idunno, something.

Kudra :maybe_verified:

@currentbias I personally use all the mods available that are least annoying:

* #Novavax when possible
* #mrna when it hasn't been
* #fluvaccination yearly
* #gargling twice daily both water & mouthwash (several types on rotation)
* #iotacarrageenan when I feel at risk

Masked when required, especially before vaccination (and used to mask on flights well before covid to reduce illness, used to get some very strange looks!) Would mask again for a new pandemic with no complaints, but don't currently.

I am still a #novid, as is my almost 3yo daughter who has never been vaccinated as she's not allowed to until age 5 in my country. She gets every flu vax though!

@currentbias I personally use all the mods available that are least annoying:

* #Novavax when possible
* #mrna when it hasn't been
* #fluvaccination yearly
* #gargling twice daily both water & mouthwash (several types on rotation)
* #iotacarrageenan when I feel at risk

Masked when required, especially before vaccination (and used to mask on flights well before covid to reduce illness, used to get some very strange looks!) Would mask again for a new pandemic with no complaints, but don't currently.

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