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Jote 🏳️‍🌈 :verified_gay:

@mrundkvist Well to be fair, I read a lot of shit, and read really fast. But there is a lot of situations where I prefer to listen to stuff, while doing other stuff. (I'm millennial). And sometimes I listen to videos with a dude talking about an article or a podcast about it (or several) to get different perspectives on the topic etc.

Martin Rundkvist

@ailnoth I listen to lots of #podcasts. I use YouTube for two purposes only: to explain #boardgames rules and the Double Windsor Tie Knot. TikTok is for children.

Jote 🏳️‍🌈 :verified_gay:

@mrundkvist I mean if you are on kids tiktok then yes it is for children, in my carefully curated feed we have discussion about political, HBTQIA+ issues, kink things, archeology, space and science.

kravietz 🦇

@ailnoth

Debate over an article etc, all you said makes perfect sense. I think the guy is being frustrated about people who provide TikTok videos because it’s also the only source they used, inheriting all the video’s unavoidable simplifications.

There’s another aspect to it - when given a link to an article, it takes me maybe 30 seconds to scan and initially assess its quality (scientific vs popular, sources, references, consistency). When given a 15-60 min long video on YT you are forced to sample it sequentially to see what they’re talking about, and in most cases it’s waste of time.

@mrundkvist

@ailnoth

Debate over an article etc, all you said makes perfect sense. I think the guy is being frustrated about people who provide TikTok videos because it’s also the only source they used, inheriting all the video’s unavoidable simplifications.

There’s another aspect to it - when given a link to an article, it takes me maybe 30 seconds to scan and initially assess its quality (scientific vs popular, sources, references, consistency). When given a 15-60 min long video on YT you are forced to sample...

Angie 🇵🇸🇺🇦

@mrundkvist

GenX are becoming the New Boomers, and it's making me incredibly depressed.

Dedalus Root

@mrundkvist I'm Gen X and can really appreciate the benefits of long and short-form video and audio format. Sorry, but this post is definitely giving boomer vibes.

Martin Rundkvist

@dedalusroot You need to fine-tune your detector for self-deprecating irony. I often have to ask over-literal people to put a post-it note on their screens reading "Martin's jokes usually involve him pretending to misunderstand things".

Willow "Wolveric" Catkin

@mrundkvist

"Send me the article"

The article:
*"Give us your email and sign up for our news letter! :)"*
*"To read this article, you need to buy a premium subscription!! :))"*
*"Sign up for an account to see more of our drivle!!! :)))*

Annelies Kamran

@WolvericCatkin @mrundkvist fair points! (I'd still rather read it than watch/listen to it though)

Willow "Wolveric" Catkin

@akamran @mrundkvist Yeah, having to try and follow a video, when you can take a written article at your own pace, is a pain... 😹

Arapalla

@mrundkvist

I LIKE to read. I can revisit lines or phrasing quickly and easily.

I can't do that as easily with video or audio.

I can't do podcast and concentrate on other things like driving. Neither could my boss who got done for doing 100km/h in a 60 zone while listening to a podcast.

I love music. Can do that almost anywhere. Almost. Even that goes off when the going gets serious.

Piers Cawley

@mrundkvist #ALT4you

A social media screen grab from somewhere. A white douchebro called lloydrang opines:
"I'm GenX. We grew up in an all-print world. We read really fast.

"So, my Millenial and GenZ peeps, I beg you for the love of Bananarama, please just send me the article and not the TikTok of the dude talking about the article.

"In Prince's funky name, amen."

At the time the screen was grabbed, this fatuous gobbet of opinion had 12.1K likes, 624 replies, 855 reposts and 302 shares.

@mrundkvist #ALT4you

A social media screen grab from somewhere. A white douchebro called lloydrang opines:
"I'm GenX. We grew up in an all-print world. We read really fast.

"So, my Millenial and GenZ peeps, I beg you for the love of Bananarama, please just send me the article and not the TikTok of the dude talking about the article.

Piers Cawley

@mrundkvist I'm not sure I quite nailed the NPV there.

Crafty

@mrundkvist yup this. Not only do i find video content to be annoying since I'm quite often not in a setting where listening to audio content is appropriate, I also assume everything is bs unless I see a source 🤷‍♀️

sunflowerinrain

@mrundkvist So true. If there's a transcript, I don't bother watching a slow time-wasting video. (Apologies to #TEDtalk people.)

Another advantage of text is that you can scan back to check something.

Jaime Herazo

@mrundkvist
Actual Alt Text without unneeded vitriol:

Tweet by "lloydrang":

"I'm GenX. We grew up in an all-print world. We read
really fast.

So, my Millennial and GenZ peeps, | beg you for the love
of Bananarama, please just send me the article and not
the TikTok of the dude talking about the article.

In Prince's funky name, amen."

@mrundkvist
Actual Alt Text without unneeded vitriol:

Tweet by "lloydrang":

"I'm GenX. We grew up in an all-print world. We read
really fast.

So, my Millennial and GenZ peeps, | beg you for the love
of Bananarama, please just send me the article and not
the TikTok of the dude talking about the article.

excited for the mastodon rise

@mrundkvist I'm an elder millenial. I read crazy fast and prefer text.

My partner is genx. She's dyslexic, so she often prefers video content.

I've had coworkers who are gen z hating on video. I've got old relatives who love the new world.

From where I'm sitting, it doesn't feel as generational. I get younger folks are growing up on video a lot more, but I'll bet the ratio isn't that different.

excited for the mastodon rise

Oh and don't get me started on "old dudes with a 20 minute youtube howto that could've been one picture with a circle and two sentences"

Michal Bryxí 🌱

@mrundkvist That's ... Weird. Millennial here. I, for sure, can't hold attention on a long read. Mainly because 9 times out of 10 half of the words could be cut out without any information loss. But I do read *a lot*. Direct sharing of short format videos for anything else than funsies is quite frowned upon in my circles.

Dan Morgan :ksu:

@mrundkvist I feel the same way about YouTube instructional videos. Give me the highlights as bullets and steps in a numbered list. Screenshots optional.

BierFrau 🍺​

@mrundkvist sure, but I think the purpose is different. Gen X is used to reading to absorb information. Younger generations use information to be social. Being social properly takes time.

BierFrau 🍺​

@mrundkvist And younger generations are very used to accomodating people with reading difficulties. They almost never assume you're fluent in reading.

We would just shove them on the "short bus" and pretend they didn't exist.

BierFrau 🍺​

@mrundkvist so while it might be a bit of an ego boost that we have all of these "old people superpowers" younger generations are superior to us in a hell of a lot of ways.

We were angry, neglected assholes.

Kinene

@mrundkvist Yes, I get the "snark."

The issue is not really generational, but different learning styles. Many (most) people absorb information through audio/visual means (videos, podcasts, etc.), while others do better with written info.

I prefer text, not just because I read quickly (I do), but I do not remember audio or visual input as well as written input. Lecture "at" me, and without my written notes, I would lose most of what is being presented. I find chatty videos boring and/or annoying; "just cut to the chase, quit blathering... bored now."

@mrundkvist Yes, I get the "snark."

The issue is not really generational, but different learning styles. Many (most) people absorb information through audio/visual means (videos, podcasts, etc.), while others do better with written info.

I prefer text, not just because I read quickly (I do), but I do not remember audio or visual input as well as written input. Lecture "at" me, and without my written notes, I would lose most of what is being presented. I find chatty videos boring and/or annoying;...

DELETED

@mrundkvist this 1000x. I’m the youngest GenX and I absolutely prefer reading. I have never even listened to a single podcast, and I have no interest in watching videos of people talking about something I could read and understand for myself.

Budgegeria 🦜

@mrundkvist And while at it, please share links of articles instead of screenshots. Or share both.

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