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Caitlin Condon

"One million Blackwell GPUs would suck down an astonishing 1.875 gigawatts of power. For context, a typical nuclear power plant only produces 1 gigawatt of power.

Fossil fuel-burning plants, whether that's natural gas, coal, or oil, produce even less. There's no way to ramp up nuclear capacity in the time it will take to supply these millions of chips, so much, if not all, of that extra power demand is going to come from carbon-emitting sources."

techradar.com/computing/i-watc

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@catc0n The addiction for power and the addiction for "power" have finally met. I think a super AGI won't be needed in order to destroy humanity. We will do it together with our Junkie-computer friends! One big dope party!

Caitlin Condon

@enhborg We do seem to long for self-destruction.

Nini

@catc0n @enhborg Well, some of us do, most everyone else are being dragged down with them.

DELETED

@nini @catc0n There isn't much to do than educate the people around us. I've been trying many years since late 90s when I switched to Linux, but most people are resisting. Brainwashing has been quite effective. My greatest achiement is that I have convinced my family to use at least @signalapp For the most times I get really weird looks when I talk about privacy and security stuff. So be it.

Jerry Bell :verified_paw: :donor: :verified_dragon: :rebelverified:​

@catc0n I don’t understand how that is financially viable, let alone the environmental impact. The current gen cards are in the $100k range to purchase - I have no idea how much power they use but less than this new one, and are already not making money.

Michał :runbsd: :emacs:

@jerry @catc0n it is not. OpenAI is loosing 5 billion dollars per year. It’s all vc bait.

Pēteris Krišjānis

@mms @jerry @catc0n it absolutely not, but Nvidia bord would be fired and new placed if they wouldn't do this. They are raking in money on bullshit, but no one cares. They won't be left with massive debt. Companies ordering their product will.

Leon Overweel

@catc0n for what it's worth, the projection for newly installed (so additional) solar capacity in 2024 is 574 GW and for wind it's 125 GW [1]. An additional 1.9 GW of demand isn't going to impact the energy transition in a significant way.

[1], see page 28: ember-climate.org/app/uploads/

The Turtle

@catc0n my floating-point needs could probably be met by an 80387.

Ω 🌍 Gus Posey

@catc0n Our need for ugly derivative art and poorly-written sophomoric prose will be our undoing, an appropriate end for an annoying animal.

Tiong-seah Yap (Bear)

@catc0n
With nearly the total energy of 2 nuclear power plants to feed a phantom and laying off human being one after another, what a fantastic magical show has ever been created.

samiamsam

@catc0n

i'm sick of techbros

exhausted really

Elenna :verified_transgender:​

@catc0n building a nuclear power station might take well over a decade by comparison. not that I'm a big fan of nuclear power and think that should be our plan for solving this crisis.

The Liquid Clear (Bree D)

@catc0n they will regulate our farts before they actually take the responsibility

Pria

@catc0n Big Tech is the Tobacco Industry of Oil Companies.

Inkican

@catc0n To be sure, it's a frightening scenario - I'm wondering if they can 'Moore's Law' the power demands of the chip, or our ability to supply clean energy - that'd be a way solve this.

I think we're in a serious 'too many horses' scenario where the sheer amount of horses was killing the quality of life in NYC or other cities. Then we found the 'horseless carriage.'

Cars / exhaust are their own problems of course - we must never stop looking for answers.

Inhabitant of Carcosa :emacs:

@inkican @catc0n Jevon's Paradox means we can't Moore's Law our way out of this, for better or worse.

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@catc0n 1.875 gigawatts?!? Great Scott!!

johne

@catc0n I feel a surge of neo-luddites would be a good thing.

Caitlin Condon

@johne Haha, I think it's happening?! I swear I saw an NYT article on a "new generation of Luddites" recently

Corpomancer

@catc0n welcome to the end, they cannot be convinced, only excited about opportunities to speed up the inevitable.

Shadow06

@catc0n But crypto miners bad.... Imagine the CO2 emissions we'd eliminate

RejZoR

@catc0n Ai is the next crypto. And while it has some use with specific applications of it, most of it is just bullshit and hallucinations. And they spend tons of compute and electrical power on it.

Chris Haynes

@catc0n #climate #energy This is #absurd. The presumption that, because they can manufacture millions of power-hungry chips, the rest of us must destroy the environment to power them is sick.

Runyan50

@catc0n @Nonya_Bidniss This sounds like a great idea for when Musk has a Dyson sphere power station and beams the energy to his AI monolith on Luna. Humanity should be about a Type 1.5 civilization by then. Or maybe reactors using matter-antimatter?

AmbularD

@catc0n This timeline just keeps getting more horrible. Are these people thinking at all?

cslinuxboy

@catc0n Anything that will make "line go up" for those investors. Environment be-damned.

Cyn & Dan

@catc0n so much power... and no Dyson sphere in sight

Such projections are just another form of "drill, drill, drill" , quite literally they want to see the world burn up

Tim Kellogg

@catc0n

1. it takes 1.875 gigawatts
2. nuclear plant offers 1 gigawatt
3. there’s no way we can meet the demand

not sure how these statements can follow each other and not be a joke

okay fine, i’ll say it. 2 nuclear power plants. we can do it with 2 of them. that’s how it’s possible.

maybe we shouldn’t be shutting down nuclear power. that seems, in hindsight, to have been a very bad idea

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